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Old 11-21-2003, 01:26 PM   #1
Charlie Spencer
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Samba - Start or Restart?

I'm reading about Samba and I find references to starting, stopping, and restarting smbd and nmbd. I've seen ways to do this via commands, scripts, and GUI's. In all cases, restarting after stopping is done differently from initially starting. Having different ways to start and restart something implies there is a difference between the two.

What's the difference between starting and restarting these services? (Is the Windows term "service" correct? I'm still developing a volcabulary.) Is there a time when one is more appropriate than the other, such as after a reboot or log out? Do these differences apply to other things in Linux?

If I stop my weed whacker, I don't have to set the choke before I restart it.
Old 11-21-2003, 02:13 PM   #2
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It depends. Are you running Samba from xinetd/inetd or as standalone from a Sys V startup script?

From standalone:
/etc/rc.d/init.d/smb {start|stop|restart|status}

If you restart it essentially reparses the configuration file, so any new changes will be accepted.
Starting with this method will be no different than init.
Old 11-21-2003, 02:34 PM   #3
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And here I was, foolishly hoping it was something simple.

I'm sorry, I haven't learned enough yet to know what you mean by xinetd/inetd or Sys V. I understand reparse and init in other contexts, but I'm reluctant to assume they mean the same thing here. Is 'init' synonomous with 'boot'? I'll researchthese terms and post a hopefully intelligent answer, but it's going to take me a while.

The command you show looks familiar from reading at, but they have 'samba' where you have 'smb'. I couldn't find 'samba' in that directory; I can find smb so I'll try that.

But I still don't know when I should specify 'start' vs 'restart'. Is it 'start' if the service doesn't start automatically at boot, and 'restart' only after a 'stop'? Or is it 'restart' only if I change a configuration file while stopped? What happens if I change a config and 'start' instead of 'restart'?

I'll just go over here and wet the newspaper with the other puppies.
Old 11-21-2003, 03:44 PM   #4
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How did you install it? If you used the redhat rpm then as root try:
service smb restart
Old 11-21-2003, 04:03 PM   #5
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I have only just started using samba today ,so am by no means an expert. I have used the line "service smb start" to start the service originally. When working in SWAT or in the smb.conf file after a change you need to restart (stop and start) the service again so that it updates and the canges can take affect.

Thus the command "service smb restart" stops the service then starts it again so that you don't have to type the two commands "service smb stop" followed by "service smb start".

That is my take on it anyway. Hope that helps.
Old 11-22-2003, 10:39 AM   #6
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Nairnie, thanks. JCookman and David Ross, thanks for providing assistance, but I'm not having any trouble starting Samba. I'm just trying to find out the difference between starting and restarting. As I understand Nairnie, 'restart' is a single command that saves entering separate 'stop' and 'start' commands. Thanks.


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