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Old 06-16-2016, 06:29 PM   #1
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pfSense and SSDs


I am preparing to do a DIY router using pfSense. Can anyone advise if this problem has been solved:

https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=34381.0

regarding SSDs, or do I need to choose a regular HDD?
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Old 06-16-2016, 07:38 PM   #2
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Did you read the entire thread? With current SSDs the concerns in the thread are non problems.

pfsense 2.2 uses FreeBSD 10.1 so the following is applicable.

http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html
 
Old 06-16-2016, 08:04 PM   #3
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I'm not sold on the notion that you "need" a ssd on a firewall distro. I run a small firewall Untangle on a usb flash drive. Seems to be fine.

I'll say that a ssd can't hurt and almost every distro and ssd makers have finally figured out how to get these working for a few years or more. You may not get enterprise level mechanical hard drive numbers yet but for sheer speed you can't seem to beat the ssd.

By the time the ssd fails, you'll want a new one.

Guess you could get extra ram and no drive and run the nanoBSD version.

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Did you read the entire thread? With current SSDs the concerns in the thread are non problems.

pfsense 2.2 uses FreeBSD 10.1 so the following is applicable.

http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html
Yes I read it. No I didn't understand everything I read, but got the gist of it. Its saying you have to use 'embedded' or 'nanobsd' versions, otherwise pfSense will basically chew up the SSD in short order. To use either version you have to give up the use of the VGA, and resort to the serial stuff, which looks too complicated for me, so VGA console is a must. The post is about five years old, so the question was has anything changed? Regret I understood even less of the techotalk of your link...other than I'll need the GeekSquad to deal with the SSD if I get one. So can I buy a SSD or do I need a regular HDD?
 
Old 06-20-2016, 08:34 PM   #5
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In a nutshell with current SSDs and a filesytem that supports trim the drive should last as long as a regular hard drive. You can also tune the system to avoid using swap if possible.
 
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In a nutshell with current SSDs and a filesytem that supports trim the drive should last as long as a regular hard drive. You can also tune the system to avoid using swap if possible.
I'll assume I have a green light to buy a SSD then, and will pick one from those discussed in another thread. One last question, do I need to look into this "filesystem that supports trim" or can I leave this to the computer tech to fool with?
 
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I'm not sold on the notion that you "need" a ssd on a firewall distro. I run a small firewall Untangle on a usb flash drive. Seems to be fine.

I'll say that a ssd can't hurt and almost every distro and ssd makers have finally figured out how to get these working for a few years or more. You may not get enterprise level mechanical hard drive numbers yet but for sheer speed you can't seem to beat the ssd.

By the time the ssd fails, you'll want a new one.

Guess you could get extra ram and no drive and run the nanoBSD version.
I was aiming for quiet, energy efficient, and low heat with the SSD. Actually I was originally thinking reliability too, but guess that one bit the dust. Don't know...maybe I should think more about using a regular 120GB HDD for this DIY router. I'm definitely open to pros and cons! The nanoBSD and embedded versions of pfSense is a no go though...I do require the VGA console.
 
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With pfsense I assume the filesystem will be ufs so not much to consider.
 
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I'm all for saving electricity.

Try it running off a usb flash drive just for a test.
 
  


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