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Old 09-03-2003, 09:10 PM   #1
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Networking work around help


I know its a stretch but here goes...

I have a three computer home network set up.

Box 1 is an xp machine running as the default gateway. Because of hardware limitations I am forced to have this box for the internet connection (radiowave broadband thru an orinocco card)
it pulls a dynamic ip address from my provider via dhcp in the 10.xxx.xxx.x range.

I named this box robert with the ethernet card having the IP, 169.168.0.1

Box 2 is a redhat9.0 linux box that I use to test stuff for my off site servers. I named it bob ip-169.168.0.2 I have enabled a caching name server to this box.

Box three is a xp machine named harley IP 169.168.0.3

My setup is the orrinocco card is in robert and a nic card goes from robert to a 4 port hub the other two connect to the hub via
100 bit nics.

now all is well. they all see, ping each other and all can recieve the "internet"... No problem.

Now for my question.
I got a FQDN and ip number to use for testing on bob, the linux box. the ip address is 64.x.xx.x I would like to set up a server on the linux box that recives requests from outside the home network that I can connect to from anywhere, but for the life of me I cant figure out how to do this. any and all help would be great!

Thanks in advance..
 
Old 09-03-2003, 10:03 PM   #2
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So what you are saying is that, you have a legal domain name and IP address and you want to forward all requests from the internet thru the XP PC to the Linux box. I am not sure this can be done with XP. Why not buy a router and set it up to forward the requests to the Linux box?
 
Old 09-04-2003, 05:50 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply. I apreceate it. so I would do something like this?

my internet connection comes into the xp machine then out the
nic to a router then to the other machines? is this right? thanks again for the reply
 
Old 09-04-2003, 08:29 AM   #4
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No, it should look like this.


|---- PC1
|
internet --- router ---|---PC2
|
|---PC3
 
Old 09-04-2003, 08:30 AM   #5
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That did not look right. It should be the internet into the router, the from the router to the PC's.
 
Old 09-04-2003, 04:19 PM   #6
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Thanks for the info! The problem is that the internet conection
is radiowave wireless thru an orrinoco card. the ISP only has drivers for windows. I guess I'm out of luck... thanks anyway!
 
Old 09-04-2003, 08:01 PM   #7
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How is that equipment setup?
 
Old 09-04-2003, 08:41 PM   #8
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I used to work with an ISP using Wavlan/Orinoco equipment and I'm just wondering. Can you use an Orinoco RG1000 as a reciever? Not sure if they still make theses but it looked like a brown sharks fin. Clients had an orinoco rg1000 (shark fin), Which would act like a router.
P.S. --- The RG1000 has an orinoco/wavlan card in it. Which if you are using an external antenna, you can open the RG1000 and attach the antenna to the card inside if necessary. You could probably even take your card out of your PCMCIA slot and put it into the RG1000. Of course I do not know that this will work for sure.
PPS.-- I may also be exposing my ignorance but if you have a non routable IP via DHCP to your XP box/Gateway(10.0.0.x), how do you route to your FQDN and Routable IP? Can you ping your home network from the Internet? Does your ISP have the DNS entry for your FQDN? If so shouldn't they give you a static routable IP?
Sorry I'm babbling!
 
Old 09-05-2003, 06:22 AM   #9
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Howdy..

[tangle] -

the set up for the internet connection is like this, The orinoco card is in a elan PCI to PCMCIA connector with a thin wire attached to the back of the card that goes into a larger cable that then connects to an outdoor (rooftop) antennna. the software to receive the signal is propriotary and comes only in windows format.


[fataldata]-
The elan pci card holder does include native linux support, But the orinoco card, has something attached to the back via the isp that communicates with the isp that understands only windows.
replacement of the card by the isp is 400.00 bucks, so no I haven't taken it apart to check out its guts.

as far as the question "how do you route to your FQDN and Routable IP". That was what I was asking ;-) I could get a static ip address from the isp but I dont want to pay the extra ten bucks a month, I'm connected at 256k for $50.00 and to pay $60
for this connection isnt something I'm interested in at the moment.

thanks for the replies!
 
Old 09-05-2003, 09:46 AM   #10
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I know that Windows 2000 Server can do what you want it too. You can set it up as a router and forward requests to certain PCs on your network. I am not sure if you can find it cheap or if you know someone that is up grading to Windows 2003 Server that would sell you the copy that they have.

If you want to do this with a dynamic IP address, try dyndns.org. They let you have an domain name like mydomain.dyndns.org. They will forward all request to your IP address and have software that will update when your IP address changes.
 
Old 09-05-2003, 04:44 PM   #11
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Thanks tangle! I'll give windows server a shot..
I have a off site server and I gave myself an FQDN and IP address

like if my off site server is www.slimis.com I gave myself linux.slimis.com with a good 64.x.xx.xxx address That I got from my colocation isp.. I just want to use this box here at home to test scripts and some setups before I ship it to my main server...
But I want to be able to work on it if I aint at home... thanks for all the help guys...
 
Old 09-05-2003, 08:54 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by slimis
Thanks tangle! I'll give windows server a shot..
I have a off site server and I gave myself an FQDN and IP address

like if my off site server is www.slimis.com I gave myself linux.slimis.com with a good 64.x.xx.xxx address That I got from my colocation isp.. I just want to use this box here at home to test scripts and some setups before I ship it to my main server...
But I want to be able to work on it if I aint at home... thanks for all the help guys...
Umm, I think you can kind of, sort of, do what you want with XP.

http://www.haxial.com/faq/routerconfig/winxp/

Its probably not the smoothest method but check this out and see if it is what you want.
 
Old 09-05-2003, 10:06 PM   #13
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WhiteChedda, he is wanting to use XP as a router and forward request to his Linux box. That just lets you share the connection, unless I missed something.
 
Old 09-06-2003, 09:06 AM   #14
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WhiteChedda, he is wanting to use XP as a router and forward request to his Linux box. That just lets you share the connection, unless I missed something.
You missed something.

You can forward services {you can also define your own services} to the LAN IP of your choice on your network.

You get to this feature through the ICS setup, but its actually a small router feature in XP.

If you read past all the graphics it explains it a bit better

8. In "Description of service", type the name of the program you are doing this for (for example, KDX Server, NetFone, etc).

9. In "Name or IP address", type the IP address of the computer running the program.

10. In "External Port" and "Internal Port", type the port number that the program is using (10700 for KDX Server or 10200 for NetFone unless you have changed it).

11. Click the "OK" button and you should see the new port mapping appear in the Services window ticked:

12. Click the "OK" button on the "Advanced Settings" window.
13. Click the "OK" button on the network "Properties" window and it's all done.
 
  


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