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Old 04-15-2012, 04:36 PM   #1
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Laptop computer cannot ping desktop on a LAN college network


I am trying to connect two computers in my dorms. One is a desktop that is wired connected. The other is a laptop that is wireless connected. Both computer browse the internet with no problems. Both can ping themselves. The problem is that I cannot ping each other. I know it is not a firewall issue because if I connect the laptop with an Ethernet cable there is no problem.

I know it must be a network configuration but I do not know what to do. I have already read all I could find.

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Old 04-15-2012, 05:52 PM   #2
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Is the wireless network from your router?
 
Old 04-15-2012, 06:02 PM   #3
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Nope. The LAN is in a dorm at a college. I do not have access to the router. What I find strange is that I can ping computers connected to the Ethernet port but I cannot using the wireless although I can surf the internet in both of them. In some post it was suggested that it was a communication problem from the laptop and that the Eth0 interfaces should be disabled but how???
 
Old 04-15-2012, 09:10 PM   #4
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Try a traceroute with the wired connection, then with the wireless one, and try to identify where it fails. That might provide some hints.
 
Old 04-15-2012, 09:20 PM   #5
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I'm sorry. My experience with networks is very basic... how exactly I do the traceroute? thanks...
 
Old 04-15-2012, 09:23 PM   #6
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traceroute [ip address], e.g. traceroute xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

traceroute [domain]. e.g. traceroute google.com.

See man traceroute for more.
 
Old 04-15-2012, 09:37 PM   #7
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Traceroute give me same result than ping... it cannot connect :/


traceroute to 10.88.8.6 (10.88.8.6), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
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I am almost sure that there is a problem with the wireless configuration...

---------- Post added 04-16-12 at 02:38 AM ----------

btw I can do traceroute to localhost and external servers...
 
Old 04-16-2012, 03:06 PM   #8
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The wired and wireless networks may be isolated or have a natted router betweenthem (such as for the dorm). If your wireless has an IP address, and you are accessing websites, the device is working. Are you joining the right wireless network? Can others access hosts on the LAN side via wireless access?
 
Old 04-16-2012, 04:12 PM   #9
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"Both computer browse the internet with no problems"

There was no reason to do ping after this statement. What could you prove? Ping is a very old simple test that tends to be blocked more and more.
 
Old 04-16-2012, 07:45 PM   #10
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Going back to your original post:

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I know it is not a firewall issue because if I connect the laptop with an Ethernet cable there is no problem.
Did you try the traceroute with a wired connection (though at this point is would seem not to matter, since the intervening devices seem to be set not to provide meaningful replies)? My thought was to compare the two to try to get a hint, since you indicated the wired connection was working.
 
Old 04-16-2012, 10:59 PM   #11
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thanks for your replies...

jschiwal: yes, I assume there is some isolation in the network between the wireless and the wired computers. However both computers present the same external IP which means that they are in the same NAT network... am I right?

jefro: I find strange that I can ping external servers and not the one in the supposedly same network. I could have use any other type of communication but ping seem more simple... I didn't know it was in disuse. My experience with networks is very limited.

frankbell: tracroute from the wired PC to the laptop give no result...

Is this such an uncommon occurrence?
 
Old 04-17-2012, 03:53 PM   #12
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Useless test.


It is blocked by some means.
 
Old 04-17-2012, 08:14 PM   #13
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Thanks Jefro, that was really useful. But what I need really is to know how can I bypass that block...
 
Old 04-17-2012, 08:31 PM   #14
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However both computers present the same external IP which means that they are in the same NAT network... am I right?
Yes, it means they are both behind a NAT. It also means that you will only be able to connect them by changing firewall configurations.
 
Old 04-18-2012, 06:30 PM   #15
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Please post the IP addresses and gateway addresses for both computers. I'm guessing that the wired and wireless networks are on different subnets. The router at the gateway may provide NAT masquerading for both networks but not route traffic between the two. You may need to use a wireless or wired router yourself or connect the two computer via crossover cable to be able to shares files over the network.
 
  


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