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Old 11-12-2012, 01:37 PM   #1
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Is there a Linux equivalent to group policy?


One of the advantages of Active Directory is group policy and the ability to push settings to clients and users. Is there anything similar for Linux? Whether OpenLdap, SAMBA, or eDirectory?

I've always wondered this, but could never find anything searching Google
 
Old 11-12-2012, 03:35 PM   #2
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Seems there isnt a single tool that works on every distro. If you already have a distro picked then start looking at what tools exist for managing it. Here is an example for managing Redhat. I dont know if it will work with Redhat based distros.
http://spacewalk.redhat.com/
 
Old 11-12-2012, 04:11 PM   #3
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Seems there isnt a single tool that works on every distro. If you already have a distro picked then start looking at what tools exist for managing it. Here is an example for managing Redhat. I dont know if it will work with Redhat based distros.
Sorry, but openLDAP works just fine on every distro I've ever touched. Spacewalk was not designed with user-management in mind, but for systems provisioning/management.

Samba can also hook into LDAP, and you can even use LDAP to define SUDO'ers roles (administrator) rights on systems, from one central SUDOER's file.
 
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Did you read the question? It was about Group Policy = system management. Thus my reference to Spacewalk that as you yourself stated is system management.
 
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Did you read the question?
Yep...did you?
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It was about Group Policy = system management.
Sorry, group policy does not (!=) system management. In a VERY broad sense, group policy is INCLUDED in system management, but that's not what spacewalk does. Since you began with a sarcastic tone...did you read what Spacewalk does? From their own website:
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Spacewalk manages software content updates for Red Hat derived distributions such as Fedora, CentOS, and Scientific Linux, within your firewall. You can stage software content through different environments, managing the deployment of updates to systems and allowing you to view at which update level any given system is at across your deployment. A clean central web interface allows viewing of systems and their software update status, and initiating update actions. What are the differences between Spacewalk and the Red Hat Network Satellite product?

In addition to software content management, Spacewalk provides provisioning and monitoring capabilities. It will enable you to kickstart systems, as well as manage and deploy configuration files. Spacewalk's monitoring feature allows you to view monitoring status for your systems alongside their software update status. Spacewalk also has virtualization capabilities to enable you to provision, control, manage, and monitor virtual Xen guests.
The only way Spacewalk would apply to this question, is if the OP was using it to configure an LDAP/NIS server, that already HAD the group definitions in place, or to provision other servers with what was already built.
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Thus my reference to Spacewalk that as you yourself stated is system management.
Sorry, I did not say that.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 08:26 AM   #6
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Quoting the OP "ability to push settings to clients and users. Is there anything similar for Linux?" Im pretty sure that is speaking of Group Policy ability to push user/system configurations to the desktop/client.

Taken directly from the spacewalk site:
What Can Spacewalk Do?
■Manage and deploy configuration files to your systems

"Sorry, group policy does not (!=) system management." Do you even use GPOs?

Back to the question. There are quite a few configuraiton management solutions out there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ement_software

If your using Redhat based distro Spacewalk looks like it might be a good choice. If your using many different distros then there are others that work cross-platform including Linux, UNIX and Windows.
 
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Quoting the OP "ability to push settings to clients and users. Is there anything similar for Linux?" Im pretty sure that is speaking of Group Policy ability to push user/system configurations to the desktop/client.
Nope. In the context the OP posted it in, it's talking about USER PERMISSIONS. Such as access to printers, shared network files/resources, etc.
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Taken directly from the spacewalk site:
What Can Spacewalk Do?
■Manage and deploy configuration files to your systems
Again, spacewalk is for configuring servers. Yes, this includes configuration files, but again, this is NOT what the OP is asking about.
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"Sorry, group policy does not (!=) system management." Do you even use GPOs?
Nope...GPO's as their defined in the Wikipedia entry (which you pointed to), deal with Active Directory and Windows. The OP is asking for Linux solutions, and that's what LDAP is. It works on pretty much everything...you can even get network appliances that work with it. You define your group/user polices in LDAP, and can even import them from other things, like Active Directory. Also, group policies STILL do not equal system management...that is USER management, which can be done in many, MANY ways, from enterprise level down to TCP wrappers on a network service, written to a text file.
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Back to the question. There are quite a few configuraiton management solutions out there.
If your using Redhat based distro Spacewalk looks like it might be a good choice. If your using many different distros then there are others that work cross-platform including Linux, UNIX and Windows.
Sorry, spacewalk is not a good choice for this, and it won't be. That's sort of like saying you could replace Active Directory with a network boot image, that just overwrites your hard drive when you log in....since it would then 'configure' your system accordingly. Spacewalk is for building/configuring servers. It just IS NOT a good fit for this.

OP, if you are already using Active Directory, which (based on your initial question is a good assumption), you can use it along WITH LDAP to authenticate Linux users/machines, and use your existing group policies. There are even Microsoft documents that tell you how to get this done.

http://blog.wains.be/2011/04/11/auth...ive-directory/
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m....12.linux.aspx

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