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07-10-2001, 09:04 PM
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is it enough?
Hey guys,
I am buying a Compaq Deskpro 4000 w/ P2-233, 32MB, 3.2GB HD, Sound, Ethernet, USB to transfer my server. i was just wondering if it would be enough to handle 250-750 visitors a day. If you dont think so, do you know any place where i can get a cheap computer? Thanks for any replies.
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07-11-2001, 02:35 AM
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If the site visits were timed evenly then i guess it might be OK but it will be a little thin. But the real world consists of prime time and peak loads. Does your job depend on the performance of the server? Will you on;y be supplying static content or do you want a full slashcode2?
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07-11-2001, 03:43 AM
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What speed is the link to the box? As that'll effect the maximum spike you can expect.... as mcleodnine mentioned if you're on static content then you should be find. Mind you my server has a little bit of dynamic content (via PHP) with no problem and thats a WinChip2-233 with 64MB, and you'll be getting more kick per clock tick too (being a P2), so I wouldn't have thought you had any problems.
cheers
Jamie...
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07-11-2001, 01:26 PM
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I have a cable connection and I am going to get dsl soon and i'll be putting them together (of course i am going to buy another network card). The contents of the site is dynamic. I have a forum running there.
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07-11-2001, 01:54 PM
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if you have a forum running, you most likely may need more memory and a more powerful cpu...but i may be wrong.
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07-11-2001, 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by dilberim82
I have a cable connection and I am going to get dsl soon and i'll be putting them together (of course i am going to buy another network card). The contents of the site is dynamic. I have a forum running there.
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Putting them together? As in a load-balancing scheme or a as in fail-safe?
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07-11-2001, 03:39 PM
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Brian i think you are right. I do need a little more cpu and memory, but i am broke and i did not want to spend money to buy a new computer right now. But i figured if i was going to give 150 i might as well give 400 and get a Pentium III with more memory. And mcleodnine, i was going to load-balance them but i changed my mind. I think DSL will just do fine for now. Thanks everyone for your opinions 
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07-11-2001, 03:44 PM
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do you know what the upload speed on the DSL? because if the extra cost of the cable isnt too much, it might help to have that extra boost from the cable.
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07-11-2001, 06:27 PM
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Hey,
I did not ask the upload time(very stupid of me). I think you are right about needing both lines but I just found out that i cannot use static ips with my cable connection. Is there any way getting around this? I know if i only use my cable connection it is enough, but i did not try dsl by itself yet.
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07-11-2001, 07:16 PM
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you might be able to get a hostname...or you may have one...i found mine by using Mirc im sure there is a different way  ...its like ############.ne.mediaone.net so i pointed http://telhut.cjb.net to that hostname..
BTW the server is being redone so... 
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07-11-2001, 08:19 PM
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I am not sure if i understand you Brian. can you explain what you mean a little?
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07-11-2001, 09:33 PM
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Your ISP may give you a hostname. This is similar to a web address, but rather than being assigned to an IP, it is assigned to the MAC address (like a serial #) of your modem or NIC. When i signed up for cjb.net, instead of giving an IP to connect to, i gave my hostname, that way if my IP does change, I wont have to reconfigure it  . One way to find your hostname is to go here.
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07-13-2001, 01:10 PM
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Configure this system with the essential services and don't install a bunch of stuff you don't need (like Xwindows) and this thing will server 1000's.
Of course, it greatly depends on what you are serving, but I am assuming a simple web server. You could run this on a fast 486 if you wanted. BY FAR the limiting factor on the user's end is going to be your's and his bandwidth.
KevinJ
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07-13-2001, 11:35 PM
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well for ease of setup he could install xwindows right? But run it only when you need it 
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07-14-2001, 03:54 PM
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well.. I don't think installing X makes things simpler. The curses based utilities work much better than Linuxconf or the other X utils.
Learn the command line and non-X utilities. Learn to edit certain (but not all) text files by hand. You will learn SOOOOO much more than doing it the other way.
Xwindows belongs on workstations (IMHO), not on servers.
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