let me be brief...

1) I have read ethernet howto, guess I am not that talented to sort out the solution for my own system... (wanna go online with my adsl connection with linux rh 7.0, kernel 2.2.16-22)

2) got an AOpen 10mbps PCI ethernet adapter, it claims to be working under linux and ne2000 compatible; it also claims it's PnP, i.e. no config setting required

3) when looked into w1ndowz, the card has IO range 1000-101F and IRQ 5; however, running cat /proc/pci in linux gives me:

Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0) Medium devsel
I/O at 0xa400 [0xa401]

4) dmesg returns me that usb "things" also running at IRQ 5... after reserving IRQ 5, dmesg returns 1 more line saying:

ne.c: No PCI card found .....


Becoming exhausted here (coz just got my promise ata100 working to allow linux to detect my only ata100 maxtor hd in order to install...) any help would be greatly appreciated!!

p.s. just a thought... in modules.conf:

alias eth0 ne
options ne io=0xNNN irq=X

what should I put in that NNN? is that 0x1000 as displayed in w1ndowz? or 0xa400 as shown with cat /proc/pci? is this the problem why linux can't detect my card? or the irq matters too?

Thx.

I am not very knowledgable myself, but this is what I did when trying to figure out how to get my NIC to work.

if you are getting a line in dmesg that there is a network card, that usually means that card was found and the appropriate driver was installed, at least thats what I think...

after you boot, try typing "ifconfig eth0" (assuming you have ethernet card). (dont actually type the quotation marks)
if the card is there you should get some output, if not
it will say device not found or something like that.

if its there try "ifconfig eth0 up" I think this tries to access the card. I know that if the card is working you will just get a prompt back. But if there is a problem like irq conflict you will get some message like device unavailable..

I would try to put both the i/o and irq options in your modules.conf file. You should also try it without

Andy

1. your module isn't loading at boot, but the modprobe works right? So do the modprobe command you are doing.

2. Then run 'netconfig' to setup the card.

Tell me if that gets you up and running. Test both local and internet access.

thx for all the help, the only thing I did to get it detect the card is to turn the mboard's freaking "PnP OS" off...

Thx again

everyone forgot about me! (just kidding)..

i got my driver, set up using rh7.1, sorry,mandrake...
you just had too much overhead.

on the other hand, rh 7.1 ran everything, and the install went in perfectly. all drivers installed. eth0 is on and i'm cruisin on linux. :cool

only thing i could use some advice on, is what to do about these FONTS ??? they are not so great. i understand there are programs or plugins that can allow the use of TrueType Fonts? i use mozilla, netscape 6, konqueror and have yet to try others.

if anyone knows of a different graphical browser (sorry, gotta have pictures) lemme know! also any info on the TT font stuff would be helpful.

thnx in advance!

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Rabid Undead

" windows is truly that, pretty to look at, but breaks easily " :smash:

hi Rabid,

Have you tried Opera as a browser (it is real quick). Have a look at this URL for more ..

http://www.linux.org/perl-bin/search...&qid=2&spp=100

Opera is kindof free but has a banner built in and you pay to get it removed, but the way it is built in you hardly notice it is there. I read a comparison of Browsers in linux Format (I think) and Opera seemed to come out tops. I like it anyway - it has better looks (more 'modern') than NS or Mozilla and really is quick.

Try searching the application section of the same site for Fonts, this should return a few leads to the various Font Server pages.

There is a Font HOWTO
http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Font-HOWTO.html

I think there are other HOWTO's too, try searching in this page...
http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/...EX/howtos.html

I can't remember the links but there is a 'TrueType' Project and I think it is on Sourceforge but the links are probaly in the HOWTO.

I have tried to get TT fonts working but completely crashed my system on the first attempt (lost default font so the error messages told me). After that I tried insalling a few of the font servers with no result. So if you get an easy answe let me know One thing that helped me a great deal was to play with the fonts settings in NS (and X/KDE) - I find using the font 'clean' at size 15 works for my eyes.

Hope that gives you a lead or two

Pointless point: I agree with your comments on RH7.1, it really rocks. I have set it up on 3 pcs now and it has been seemless despite a whole range of wierd hardware, it even set up my IDE burner with all that SCSI emulation stuff I had been trying to learn for a month. I really struggled with certain things on RH7.0 but 7.1 has solved them all. I'me new to linux (started a couple of months ago) and now the only reason I keep windoze is to browse the net with proper fonts that are easy to read and to play Flight Sim If Linux could give me back my favorite Verdana Font then Windoze would be toast.

A question to anyone: I am new to linux (about two months) but have been around since 5 1/4" floppies but always on MS OS's. I am used to waiting for a LONG time for new features in operating systems. Is linux going through a period of extremely rapid development at present or am I just experiencing Open Source Culture Shock?

Cheers to all,

Mike.

[Edited by mrl on 05-13-2001 at 08:13 PM]

Okay, I am VERY new at Linux. I just did a dual boot system with windows 98se. In windows i am using my NIC and the internet connection sharing with my parents computer in a different room. I am running a crossover cable and using internet connection sharing to connect to the internet. Now is there anyway to be able to connect to the internet in linux (Red Hat 7.1) with the connection of my parents computer running win98se? thanks for all your help.

-=Magnolius=-
-=http://magscreations.virtualave.net=-

it's rabid,











i'm experimenting with it right now, i try to figure out as much linux to windows networking as i can. i have been pretty successful in figuring it out so far. by the way, what type of connection is it? DSL? Cable Modem? tcp/ip, pppoe, dhcp, Dial up networking? Give me the specs and i'll research it.











if you figure it out before i get back to you with an answer, email me and let me know what you found! that way i can help the next person. this is one of my major personal goals, now. i think linux is special, with a special core group (massive as it is)of free-thinking users that represent the future of the computer industry. it's time to take special care of our kin.











if you have any other questions, post or email me. i may be able to help with any other problems you have, right away.











as for posting questions, give us as much specific detail as you dare. don't worry about giving specific IP addresses or 'personal' info, we won't need those. but the linux community is not heavily afflicted with bad-apples who would do anything detrimental with that kind of info, anyway. it's kind of like a family in linux. anyway, detail is the key, as linux can be set up with such flexibility an d freedom that it can sometimes be difficult to help if we don't know all of the details.











i'll be waiting for your post ( or email)..











HEY everyone else, feel free to help in my stead, it may be a few days before i stumble onto an answer for this..











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RABID











"it crashes hard, often and sometimes permanently. so, bill, tell me again why windoze is better?" :smash:










"top 10 reasons to choose linux over windoze: the last 10 times you saw the blue screen of death."










"system restore? too bad it only works if there's nothing wrong with your system."










"windoze 'ME', as though it let you have a personality."











"so the replacement to 98SE offers more bugs, less stability, no true DOS, no ping tools, and shotty USB support. Oh, yeah! i'm gonna go out and buy it right now, and its only a few hundred dollars !"

Magnolius -

The way most of us do the multiple-computers-to-one-internet-connection thing is using a router, or a hub/switch. A hub or switch is cheaper, but is less intelligent of a box. Each machine needs its own IP from the internet provider (cable or dsl I assume - if dialup this whole thing makes no sense). A router uses one IP from the internet provider, and you use different IPs on your private network, and the router keeps it all straight. The router also gives you some firewall protection, which might be attractive to your parents. The router is about $100 at Circuit City or places like that (LinkSys 4 port Cable/DSL router).
hth
/js

Okay here is what I have and am doing. We use a dialup connection (i live in the middle of nowhere and that is the best i can do, god i can't wait till college!) with the two computers connected by a crossover cable (a way of being able to network two computers without using A hub or router, but only a cat5 cable.) With the network i set up the Windows Internet Connection Sharing which set the IPs to the 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 which allows the two computers to "talk" to each other while the main computer is online and makes it able for me to be online on the other computer at the same time using the one dial up connection. This way (I think) makes the main computer act like a proxy server (again I think) so wouldn't I simply be able to set my Linux (RH 7.1) to detect a proxy - even thought it is a Windows computer?

-=Magnolius=-

Misread about you having the IP problems worked out.

I would think that you would simply set the IP of the linux box to the same settings as you have it on Windows, and it should work fine. You may need to set the other IP as a gateway.

However, when it comes down to it, modems are so slow that sharing one between two machines might be painful. If one machine is doing a big download while the other tries to surf the net, it could result is family conflict.

A second phone line would be the better solution...


[Edited by notlinus on 06-05-2001 at 11:04 AM]

hey,its rabid.

















i checked out an article on zdnet about windoze and connex sharing. ya might wanna look at it:















http://www.zdnet.com/zdhelp/stories/main/0,5594,2279188-3,00.html















: ok, from what i know, what notlinus says may be right, but i'm offering this in case it don't work.

However, i do agree on this: get a second line. it may be a pain in the wallet, but like you said, 56K is just, well, blah.















when the isp sends you an ip address after dialing up, it will only send one ip for communicating through its server. so, setting your linux box to the same ip as windows will cause no connection, since linux is the client and not the host:















if your isp sends out a new ip every time you dial up, it may be a pain-- though this is not often the case, and thus why internet connection sharing works on windows. see, windows doesn't know what OS you are using on the other machine. all it knows is what protocol you use to communicate with it.















so, if you set up linux to use tcp/ip protocol for connecting thru windows' client for micro$oft networks and set the gateway to the windows machine's ip address, you should be ok. oh, and set your ip to the one windows is *not* using, so that you can actually browse.















*first, try what ol' boy notlinus told ya*
*if it don't work, try what i told ya*

*and, because i don't know everything, i admit, i could be wrong - i can't test it out cuz i use a dual boot on a cable-modem, and don't have a dialup or a second machine to test with*















i'm just givin you more to go with, if you still have issues with the connection.















by the way: IT IS BAD MOJO TO DISPLAY YOUR IP ADDRESSES ANYWHERE ONLINE! like i said before. we don't need them. and even though *WE* may not do bad karma with em, don't forget *ANYONE* can read these posts, without us ever knowing... visitors are pretty much anonymous. even if we log an IP, someone with dynamic ip addressing or masquerading can get away with murder (literally, kill your machine), so just don't go there... just tryin to help.















we kool,















Later







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RABID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!















"where do you want your computer to freeze up today?" :smash:

























[Edited by rabidundead on 06-05-2001 at 09:37 PM]

so all i have to do is make the gateway IP address on the linux machine (where do I do this i am really new to linux (running Red Hat 7.1)) the IP address of the Windows computer with the internet connection?

And i thought that the IP address i put down where windows standards that use ICS? Doesn't that mean that anyone with ICS has that IP address?

[Edited by Magnolius on 06-05-2001 at 09:43 PM]

it rabid..













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in rh7.1 use linuxconf, if you use the default desktop (KDE) then it can be found by going to the redhat control panel (it should be on your desktop, if you haven't erased the icons that were there by default), this will open a small window, with linuxconf being what looks like 'a guy in a marching band' (don't ask me why)...













in there go to the first tab (config)->networking->client tasks->host name... then go to adaptor 1













put your ip address stuff in here, you'll need your ip, netmask (255.255.255.0 probably), net device (eth0) and






kernel module (should have been set up by redhat if it detected your network card)













now accept the settings, then go back to the pane on the left, choose 'routing and gateways->set defaults', this is where to put in your gateway, you won't need to enable routing, since you are not acting as a server.













you need to accept the settings to have them take effect. then close linuxconf.













*If you have problems finding this program, just open a terminal window and type out: linuxconf













* this is how you configure your networking using a graphic interface, and applies regaurdless of whose advice you take in networking your system.













**** warning: don't mess with anything in linuxconf until you read the howto!!!! you can severely cripple your OS, remember linux won't stop you from messing things up.. with power comes the need for understanding, so.. understand what you're doing before toying with anything.





I KNOW YOU WANT TO GET TO IT RIGHT NOW!!













But, read the howto on 'networking' and also on 'linuxconf', they can be found thru the 'linux docs' icon on your kde desktop in redhat 7.1 by default. just search for the keywords for what you want to find, and go here often before asking questions on posts or in icq's, that's *why* the docs exist. ****













good luck...






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Rabid






"if you look beyond the pretty frame, you will soon discover that all windoze is, really, is a big pane." :smash:

plse get in touch regards "Error 650 in Windows" this is a provider problem so same in Linux I should think.

What the hell is this?? Something 2 do with timeouts. Anything I can do? Heard of it before??!