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Old 09-24-2015, 05:18 PM   #1
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Home-made routers?


I have seen it mentioned on other forums that 'backdoors' have been placed in all American brands of routers. I have been looking for a way around this, and so far the options seem limited to:
1. Get an cheap used PC, and install pfSense or some other router/firewall distro.
2. Get a compatible router, and use DD-WRT, OpenWRT, or Tomato.
For option 2, all these seem to be focused on wireless routers. Can any be used on wired-only routers?
 
Old 09-24-2015, 06:47 PM   #2
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Can any be used on wired-only routers?
Yes, if the device has support in which ever distro you choose.
 
Old 09-24-2015, 08:44 PM   #3
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Any computer can be made into a router. The problem is that you need a modem.
 
Old 09-24-2015, 09:17 PM   #4
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Roll your own router....

@metaschima: you need no modem if you are making a wired-only router. No WIFI.

I second the above opinion, nearly any PC with the right distro will work. Since there are live-cd versions that will save and reload configuration from USB, you can even go without a hard drive.

I believe this page might help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._distributions

I know DevilLinux is current and well known as a router distro. Some of the others look just as interesting.
 
Old 09-24-2015, 09:17 PM   #5
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These devices are popular.

http://soekris.com/support.html
 
Old 09-24-2015, 09:41 PM   #6
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Any router OS can turn off the wifi antenna.

Almost every device has or does have some issue. It isn't limited to one company or one OS.

DD-WRT may or may not have a way to attack it. I know it did at least at one time.


No amount of router security will prevent a poorly setup and run computer behind it from data issues.
 
Old 09-24-2015, 10:06 PM   #7
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@metaschima: you need no modem if you are making a wired-only router. No WIFI.
Well, there has to be a modem somewhere, whether you use DSL, fiber optic, or coaxial cable to get internet from your ISP. I've never actually seen people receive internet via ethernet cable from their ISP.
 
Old 09-25-2015, 04:05 AM   #8
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Well, there has to be a modem somewhere, whether you use DSL, fiber optic, or coaxial cable to get internet from your ISP. I've never actually seen people receive internet via ethernet cable from their ISP.
there can be an ethernet handoff from a modem. then you connect to an ethernet on the router. so the NETWORK has a modem.
 
Old 09-25-2015, 04:11 AM   #9
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Well, there has to be a modem somewhere, whether you use DSL, fiber optic, or coaxial cable to get internet from your ISP. I've never actually seen people receive internet via ethernet cable from their ISP.
i used to work at an ISP where we put in a high speed link to a new office building and connected the tenants via ethernet from our little closet. today i would do this via fiber. would you call the fiber connection in a router a modem?
 
Old 09-25-2015, 04:26 AM   #10
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pfsense is popular router/firewall distro, as hardware i just bought shuttle's barebone pc.
 
Old 09-25-2015, 09:11 AM   #11
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Question home made router

hello

You can use a wireless modem/router for a modem service your inter into you home/business just turn off the wireless transceiver. Here is what I would call the trick, use an old computer for your router any kine of firewall software will work. Now if you want it to be wireless use cant think of the name of the device. It is not a router I want to call it an access point it just extends your wired router to be able to use your wireless. Your router firewall will do all the dhcp and such. I hope this is helpfull I have yet to put this in to my network yet.

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Old 09-25-2015, 11:20 AM   #12
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i used to work at an ISP where we put in a high speed link to a new office building and connected the tenants via ethernet from our little closet. today i would do this via fiber. would you call the fiber connection in a router a modem?
A modem would sit where you need to convert between network interface types. If you are getting internet via fiber directly to each computer, then you don't need a modem.
 
  


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