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Old 09-02-2005, 04:12 PM   #1
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Failure to connect to some URLS


I'm having trouble using Suse and KDE and attempting to connect to some URLS.

They seem to be any urls which end with a - for instance http://kat1e-.deviantart.com/

Is this a problem with linux itself or just suse, I have tried every browser I can think of with no joy.
 
Old 09-03-2005, 10:15 AM   #2
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I tried your URL and it don't work. Did you tried under other OS? If it works, i think you discovered a wonderful mammoth bug!
 
Old 09-04-2005, 10:39 AM   #3
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I just tried to browse this webpage under WinXP with firefox, it works ... I also tried to ping it from a linux (Debian) box, and I get an "unknown host" ...
 
Old 09-04-2005, 05:29 PM   #4
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I tried your URL and it don't work. Did you tried under other OS?

Yep, tried under WinXP using IE, Firefox, Opera, MyIE, and Mozilla and they all resolve the address with no problem.

If the - is inside the address Ie. http://wings-on-flames.deviantart.com/ then it works fine, but just not on the end of the URL.

I checked another name to make sure that it wasn't the URL that was incorrect but then http://shutterlens-mel-.deviantart.com/ fails as well.
 
Old 09-06-2005, 08:32 AM   #5
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Then where to send this bug report???
 
Old 09-06-2005, 09:36 AM   #6
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I have no idea, I thought someone may have picked up on this problem a lot sooner than now ..
 
Old 09-06-2005, 05:46 PM   #7
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Ok so i'll notice this thread to linuxquestions.org admins, and i hope they will be more in than us .
Edit:........................
Done. Wait and see.

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Old 09-06-2005, 06:30 PM   #8
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I'm not sure what kind of problem you guys are
having. For me the kat1e-.deviantart.com resolves,
and I can browse it using Mozilla and Opera on a
Slackware machine. Maybe it's a konqueror URL
parsing problem?


Cheers,
Tink


P.S.: And linux.tar.gz ... please DON'T abuse the reported
post feature to summon someone to look at the thread.

 
Old 09-07-2005, 07:03 AM   #9
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Roger that!
 
Old 09-07-2005, 11:27 AM   #10
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Interesting. It looks as if domains like that may not be regarded as valid.

See this article on regular expression matching for domains, for example. It refers to RFC 952 and RFC 1123 which govern host naming. Here's the relevant bit:

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In short, domain names that conform to the host name requirements must contain only letters (upper or lower case) and digits. They may also contain dash characters as long as the dashes are not on the ends of the labels.
So why the seemingly inconsistent behaviour of the various browsers? Like you all, I've pinged the domain kat1e-.deviantart.com from a debian box and got "host not found", and also from the WinXP command line with success.

I think the behaviour is likely to be at the resolver level, not the browser or other user app. Maybe some resolvers allow the dashed form and some don't. Does the resolver do a pre-check on the domain string before querying the DNS servers?
 
Old 09-07-2005, 11:41 AM   #11
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Some systems adhere to the RFCs and some don't. I would consider this to be a bug with DeviantArt.
 
Old 09-07-2005, 12:10 PM   #12
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Some systems adhere to the RFCs and some don't. I would consider this to be a bug with DeviantArt.
But then what I don't understand is how come one person can resolve the host using the same browser which I can't resovle with? Surely if it was deviantART that was at fault then it would be the same response fro everyone, no matter which browser they tried with ? Or am I way off. I was thinking maybe it was something to do with my ISP but that's probably even further off, I dunno
 
Old 09-07-2005, 12:35 PM   #13
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Your browser just passes the domain name to a library to do the NS lookups. Under linux, I think this is handled by glibc, so it's probably not there. However, upstream servers may be running on a variety of platforms: BIND of various versions, Windows DNS servers, even djbdns might be employed. What happens with 'dig kat1e-.deviantart.com'?
 
Old 09-07-2005, 12:40 PM   #14
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What happens with 'dig kat1e-.deviantart.com'?
I get the following:


; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> kat1e-.deviantart.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 55408
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;kat1e-.deviantart.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
kat1e-.deviantart.com. 86400 IN A 69.28.181.43

;; Query time: 398 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.254#53(192.168.1.254)
;; WHEN: Wed Sep 7 18:39:41 2005
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 55


Which means absolutely nohting to me hehe
 
Old 09-07-2005, 12:49 PM   #15
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What it means is that your computer is capable of getting the appropriate IP address.... hrrm.

Quote:
;; ANSWER SECTION:
kat1e-.deviantart.com. 86400 IN A 69.28.181.43
 
  


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