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09-02-2005, 04:12 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Distribution: Suse Pro 9.3 / Suse10 Beta
Posts: 25
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Failure to connect to some URLS
I'm having trouble using Suse and KDE and attempting to connect to some URLS.
They seem to be any urls which end with a - for instance http://kat1e-.deviantart.com/
Is this a problem with linux itself or just suse, I have tried every browser I can think of with no joy.
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09-03-2005, 10:15 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Paris
Distribution: Slackware forever.
Posts: 2,534
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I tried your URL and it don't work. Did you tried under other OS? If it works, i think you discovered a wonderful mammoth bug!
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09-04-2005, 10:39 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 10
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I just tried to browse this webpage under WinXP with firefox, it works ... I also tried to ping it from a linux (Debian) box, and I get an "unknown host" ...
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09-04-2005, 05:29 PM
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#4
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Distribution: Suse Pro 9.3 / Suse10 Beta
Posts: 25
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Quote:
Originally posted by Linux.tar.gz
I tried your URL and it don't work. Did you tried under other OS?
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Yep, tried under WinXP using IE, Firefox, Opera, MyIE, and Mozilla and they all resolve the address with no problem.
If the - is inside the address Ie. http://wings-on-flames.deviantart.com/ then it works fine, but just not on the end of the URL.
I checked another name to make sure that it wasn't the URL that was incorrect but then http://shutterlens-mel-.deviantart.com/ fails as well.
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09-06-2005, 08:32 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Paris
Distribution: Slackware forever.
Posts: 2,534
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Then where to send this bug report???
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09-06-2005, 09:36 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Distribution: Suse Pro 9.3 / Suse10 Beta
Posts: 25
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I have no idea, I thought someone may have picked up on this problem a lot sooner than now ..
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09-06-2005, 05:46 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Paris
Distribution: Slackware forever.
Posts: 2,534
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Ok so i'll notice this thread to linuxquestions.org admins, and i hope they will be more in than us  .
Edit:........................
Done. Wait and see.
Last edited by Linux.tar.gz; 09-06-2005 at 05:49 PM.
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09-06-2005, 06:30 PM
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#8
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Moderator
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: earth
Distribution: slackware by choice, others too :} ... android.
Posts: 23,067
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I'm not sure what kind of problem you guys are
having. For me the kat1e-.deviantart.com resolves,
and I can browse it using Mozilla and Opera on a
Slackware machine. Maybe it's a konqueror URL
parsing problem?
Cheers,
Tink
P.S.: And linux.tar.gz ... please DON'T abuse the reported
post feature to summon someone to look at the thread.
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09-07-2005, 07:03 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Paris
Distribution: Slackware forever.
Posts: 2,534
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tinkster
P.S.: And linux.tar.gz ... please DON'T abuse the reported
post feature to summon someone to look at the thread.
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Roger that!
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09-07-2005, 11:27 AM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Britain
Distribution: AntiX, Debian, Gentoo
Posts: 65
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Interesting. It looks as if domains like that may not be regarded as valid.
See this article on regular expression matching for domains, for example. It refers to RFC 952 and RFC 1123 which govern host naming. Here's the relevant bit:
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In short, domain names that conform to the host name requirements must contain only letters (upper or lower case) and digits. They may also contain dash characters as long as the dashes are not on the ends of the labels.
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So why the seemingly inconsistent behaviour of the various browsers? Like you all, I've pinged the domain kat1e-.deviantart.com from a debian box and got "host not found", and also from the WinXP command line with success.
I think the behaviour is likely to be at the resolver level, not the browser or other user app. Maybe some resolvers allow the dashed form and some don't. Does the resolver do a pre-check on the domain string before querying the DNS servers?
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09-07-2005, 11:41 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: San Jose, CA
Distribution: Debian, Arch
Posts: 8,507
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Some systems adhere to the RFCs and some don't. I would consider this to be a bug with DeviantArt.
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09-07-2005, 12:10 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Distribution: Suse Pro 9.3 / Suse10 Beta
Posts: 25
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Originally posted by Matir
Some systems adhere to the RFCs and some don't. I would consider this to be a bug with DeviantArt.
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But then what I don't understand is how come one person can resolve the host using the same browser which I can't resovle with? Surely if it was deviantART that was at fault then it would be the same response fro everyone, no matter which browser they tried with ? Or am I way off. I was thinking maybe it was something to do with my ISP but that's probably even further off, I dunno 
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09-07-2005, 12:35 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: San Jose, CA
Distribution: Debian, Arch
Posts: 8,507
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Your browser just passes the domain name to a library to do the NS lookups. Under linux, I think this is handled by glibc, so it's probably not there. However, upstream servers may be running on a variety of platforms: BIND of various versions, Windows DNS servers, even djbdns might be employed. What happens with 'dig kat1e-.deviantart.com'?
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09-07-2005, 12:40 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Distribution: Suse Pro 9.3 / Suse10 Beta
Posts: 25
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Originally posted by Matir
What happens with 'dig kat1e-.deviantart.com'?
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I get the following:
; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> kat1e-.deviantart.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 55408
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;kat1e-.deviantart.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
kat1e-.deviantart.com. 86400 IN A 69.28.181.43
;; Query time: 398 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.254#53(192.168.1.254)
;; WHEN: Wed Sep 7 18:39:41 2005
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 55
Which means absolutely nohting to me hehe
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09-07-2005, 12:49 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: San Jose, CA
Distribution: Debian, Arch
Posts: 8,507
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What it means is that your computer is capable of getting the appropriate IP address.... hrrm.
Quote:
;; ANSWER SECTION:
kat1e-.deviantart.com. 86400 IN A 69.28.181.43
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