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Old 12-04-2015, 03:34 AM   #1
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Examining packets


I came up with an idea to create a program to capture internet packets randomly, submit randomly selected words from the text and submit each word to a select words in English, Farsi, Urdu, etc. looking for matches to words one might use in being a Jihadist, then scoring the result which if it reaches a limit reporting the IPs involved and the packet to proper authorities. This seems so simple it is probably of no value even if run like SETI.
I am wondering as I can not get a firm answer as to the legality of doing something like this or even creating / distributing such a script. Does anyone know for sure that this would be legal?
 
Old 12-04-2015, 08:19 AM   #2
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Consult an attorney.
You'll need one.
Retain one.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 10:55 PM   #3
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May I ask how you come to that conclusion. Packets are distributed thru the network and like driving down the road if a billboard appears one can decide to read it or not. I would like a reference justifying that conclusion. Thank you.
 
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I came up with an idea to create a program to capture internet packets randomly, submit randomly selected words from the text and submit each word to a select words in English, Farsi, Urdu, etc. looking for matches to words one might use in being a Jihadist, then scoring the result which if it reaches a limit reporting the IPs involved and the packet to proper authorities.
Couple of thoughts:
- keyword flooding (LOL),
- multiple channel comms,
- obscure languages,
- mixed char encoding,
- protocol payloads,
- pre-shared phrases,
- any other content obfuscation,
- content and comms channel encryption.

So no, IMHO you don't need a lawyer: you simply don't have the resources. You're no nation state or TLA agency ;-p
 
Old 12-05-2015, 05:54 AM   #5
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Examining packets

@unSpawn: definitions needed as I am not sure what you are pointing at?
Think U may be thinking that the foreign languages relative to English could be a problem. If so the plan is to develop a list of English terms then gather equivalents in 4-5 mid east languages to which grep would apply the extracted word from the packet. Use of Farsi etc. characters would also be needed if the words were not created from an English keyboard. I rather wonder if obfuscation or encryption would need to be considered at this level they would be an excluding feature.
Repeated utilization of pre-constructed terms could be a problem of course but may be revealed by repetition. Anyway it is an exercise which reminded my of my studies under Dr. Morrison at UNM. Don't intend to replicate what the structurally refined entities would/are doing but applying the SETI approach of beating the beast with the masses could be interesting.
 
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@unSpawn: definitions needed as I am not sure what you are pointing at?
I was pointing out potential problems with what you initially posted and I didn't even go into the legality of capturing packets and stored (meta) data, choice of single words, value of choosing single words, the state of machine translation, interpretation errors due to lack of context, etc, etc: lots of work to do I'd say.


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applying the SETI approach of beating the beast with the masses could be interesting.
I can't see it bringing back Elvis or starting a second Falklands War so by all means if designing and coding such an exercise entertains you go right ahead...
 
  


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