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Old 03-02-2002, 04:54 AM   #1
nightheart
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Angry eth0 and nic problems


OK, I recently installed Mandrake 8.1 and have had nothing but problems with my ethernet card. Its a linksys 10/100 etherfast, and I can't get linux to recognize it. The card is recognized at installation, but when I boot up it doesn't appear. When I try "insmod" or "modprobe," i get "cannot find eth0" and "cannot find tulip." I know the tulip driver is right. When I try to configure my internet, no ethernet card shows up. I get an error about not having a card installed. I'm doing a 3 way boot off win xp, win 98, and mandrake, I know the card works, since it works with both window$. I need the ethernet card for my DSL connection. Also when I try alias, I get the same message about eth0 and tulip not being found. I've checked for IRQ conflicts, and there are none. The nic is on irq 9, which isn't being used by anything else. I'm pretty much out of ideas :smash:, and would hate to have to stick with windows. Any ideas?
 
Old 03-02-2002, 01:38 PM   #2
drobson
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I am having the same problem with RH 7.2.
From looking around, I found the ethernet driver developer's
site has some disturbing news.
If you go to www.scyld.com and look at the link to drivers on the
left, I believe, you will find the developer's rant against somebody
in the Mandrake camp broke the driver as he released it.
There is apparently a war going on between him and Linus and
the rest of the world. The solution he presents is to take his
tulip driver source, compile it and recompile the kernel.
Why in the world both Mandrake and RedHat don't own up to
their goof and present everybody with a fix is beyond me!
I am dead in the water, since I don't have the experience or the
brass to do all that is required to put everything right again.
It even involved getting some special version of kgcc to compile
the kernel, since RedHat goofed that up too.

If you get anywhere, write me and let me know.

Doug Robson
 
Old 03-02-2002, 09:52 PM   #3
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Thats strange, i have red hat 7.2 installed and im using a Linksys 10/100 and RedHat picked it up and installed the tupid driver right on isntall.
 
Old 03-03-2002, 12:20 AM   #4
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Well, 7.2 did identify the card and it did specify the tulip driver for it. But it does not work. I've tried two different installs - fresh from .iso cd's. I go back to my 7.1 and it works. Even then, it's a
little strange - it takes at least a one minute pause every time it gets to "Brining up eth0" during boot before it says "OK". But at least 7.1 gives me a working ethernet connection.
I also experience the same trouble by letting up2date bring in a newer version of the kernel. It kills my ethernet again.
This has been very, very frustrating.
I've posted my own cry for help under the Networking rubric, called "eth0 - tulip - RH 7.2 woes ", just tonight (3/2/2002).
I am aware that some people use the tulip driver with apparently no ill affects, but there are many more that don't have such success. There are many different variations in the DECchips themselvs. And it seems that so many people have almost as many versions of header files and other variations in their installations and configurations which can affect success or failure.
Knowing what you have that is the "killer" is the sixty-four million dollar question.
I e-mailed Donald Becker at Scyld Corporation and he replied with the statement that RedHat's version is at fault for my situation and gave me a repremand of sorts that I should be taking this up with RedHat. Well, the only way I can do that is to pay RedHat for that kind of support. I downloaded the .iso's from their web site - I was too cheap to buy the distro from them. So that option is really not open to me. The last distro that I bought from them was 6.1. The support for that one ran out a long time ago !

Doug
 
Old 03-03-2002, 05:13 AM   #5
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OK, after reading all of this, I think I'd rather replace the NIC, then try to fix all this stuff. I am rather new to this Linux stuff. Whats a good NIC that doesn't use the tulip driver?
 
Old 03-03-2002, 06:22 PM   #6
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any 3com NICs are good. I personally only use 3com and for a really cheap one try a 3c509 which is an isa 10mb but if you want something PCI the one I would use is the 3c905B which is a 10/100 card.
 
Old 03-04-2002, 06:14 AM   #7
rehash
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redhat7.2 linksys

On first installation my redhat7.2 0S detected the modem and configured it, but it didnt work, i took the card out and rebooted, choose to remove the configuration when Kudzu prompted me at boot, then i reconnected the NIC and booted redhat, and let it configure itself again. (i cant remember if i conencted it to my modem when it was installing or not, but it brought up the eth0 interface straight away.)
note: redhat autoinstalls tulip when the kernel is compiled.
 
Old 04-29-2002, 12:35 PM   #8
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7.2 NIC install Problem

Hi,

I'm having the same issue. I tried NetGear, Linksys and a built-in Davicom NIC. All use the Tulip driver. Can PING loop-back, but not IP address of card. I even tried to reinstall 7.2, still no joy.

So are you guys saying the driver is screwed? Is there an Erretta for this?

Vince
 
Old 04-29-2002, 02:28 PM   #9
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linksys ->tulip moduale

Well i am using Mandrake 8.2 and using linksys 10/100
the kernel for that is 2.4.18 and i am having no troubles at all with it. But origianlly, I installed on a laptop before I commetted to my desktop which was using the pcmcia linksys 10/100 and I could not get that to work although it recognized the mod chip. I have read that artical as well and I even read an artical for someone who has gotten it to work as well. But I was left frustrated Anyway, from what Ive read and experienced It truley is a hit and miss situation. My suggestion before throwing away the card is try simple things like static ip addressing and checking the status from ifconfig, netstat -e, tcpdump messages. Basically is it trying to work or not.
 
  


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