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Old 05-17-2004, 03:58 PM   #1
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Any alternative to IIS for Linux?


It's a bit suicidal to even start this topic, but considering that we die sooner or later anyway...

I know that:
1. 'You use IIS in windows or sod of' is what MicroShite believes
2. ChiliASP can be an alternative for IIS on Linux, but $$$ and I heard it wasn't working well
3. You therefore change to PHP if you make a webserver out of your Linux box
4. Googling or hours of research is spend for nothing if you attempt to find a solution on your own
5. Linux users dont like Microshit on Linux (I can imagine why)

I am a student who started with RedHat to experience difficulties and to learn from them. I believe any experienced Linux user might strongly disrecommend me running .net apps from a linux box, and change to php, but I would like to generalize this thread a bit and see how far others experiences and ideas were about running .net apps from Linux.

Anyone who tried out some IIS-like linux apps? Does/can there exist some 'Techniques' that can go round this problem?
 
Old 05-17-2004, 04:04 PM   #2
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well i assume you are referring to Internet Information Services and if so i do not
know how you could not come up with a Apache search result when trying to
find a linux equivalent ... and if you want the whole "package" so to speak do
a search on:
LAMP = Linux Apache MySQL PHP
What is LAMP?
 
Old 05-17-2004, 05:14 PM   #3
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Youll never regret learning PHP/MySQL, and youll never go back to IIS/ASP. Linux/GNU opens doors like you wont beleive.

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Old 05-17-2004, 08:19 PM   #4
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Nice php, no .net

That is very true, after what I have heard and read on the internet. I will surely try PHP out later, but at the moment I am confident with asp.net and changing everything would be too much too quickly...

I know that Apache can run php docs, I think I have read somewhere even ASP pages, but not .net applications.
 
Old 05-18-2004, 01:21 AM   #5
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According to this site (which is not necessarily current or accurate) mod_haydn will allow you to integrate with Mono and write C# modules. It seems that currently the only asp.net module is provided by a commercial company, but I guess there's nothing to stop you from writing your own if you get Mon installed properly.

From the same page, it appears that all the mod_asp modules are also written by various companies and sold as commercial software.

There doesn't seem to be much point to trying to write ASP applications to run on Linux, since all the modules must be bought or are immature and buggy, not to mention that you're unlikely to get much support, because hardly any Linux users are interested in ASP so not many people are familiar enough with the Linux installation to provide you with help.

On the other hand, if you go with LAMP there are thousands of tutorials and HOW-TOs to get you started, most of them are conveniently indexed by Google.
 
Old 05-19-2004, 08:22 PM   #6
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IIS simulation

I ever tried to install a NTFS HDD onto a RedHat Box. An NTFS disk is also something very Microsofty, just like IIS is. RedHat doesn't support NTFS, so I had to install a 'driver' myself. I found two or three drivers builded from scratch that I found on the internet and that made it possible to read from the disk.
But writing was strongly disrecommended in all editions or versions, as it was not 'safe' to write through it...

Then I found something that was called 'Captive-NTFS'. The idea is that it simulates the necessary windows environment for a few very central files that Windows needs to view NTFS contents, OSKernel.exe and ntfs.sys for example.

Doesn't there exist something similar for IIS? A program that simulates a windows environment, where IIS is run from?

If not, isn't there something that COULD simulate IIS?


Some very nice responds here; Thanks for keeping this topic up....
 
Old 05-20-2004, 12:46 AM   #7
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Well you might possibly be able to use WINE to run IIS, but then what the heck is the point of using Linux? If all you try to do with Linux is get it to mount NTFS file systems, run IIS and .NET apps, use Outlook for your mail client, run Office for your productivity suite... why not just run Windows??? By trying to make Linux do exactly all the things that Windows does, you're getting the worst of both worlds. You have the application flaws of Microsoft, and none of the performance benefit of Linux since you're running everything in a hacked compatibility mode.

I would really examine your motivation to run Linux. If you want to learn Linux, than stop trying to install all the Microsoft stuff and just learn the Linux software that performs the same functions. If you want to run MS apps more safely, get your hands on Win2K3 and read some Windows hardening guides.
 
Old 05-20-2004, 08:15 AM   #8
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lok at mono (http://www.go-mono.com) There is some add-ons for apache to run .net apps.
 
Old 05-20-2004, 12:51 PM   #9
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There are many reasons why I decided to change my box, that I didn't use, to RedHat, and not to windows. They are all mainly points to gain some extra experience in a field that I have never touched.
I do fully agree with you Chort that there is no use in my case of continuing to use Linux with all these Windows issues. For me, it is like plunging myself in the Middle of all these Linux/Windows compatibility issues that I believe I will learn the most of it, which is the main reason why I got Linux in the first place.
Nonetheless, I will install LAMP, as I can see that Apache is like a basic and necessary program for other things that I could do or try out.


But back to topic?
Whats the difference of this Apache-mod and ChiliASP? I believed both were Apache-mods?
 
  


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