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Old 01-25-2005, 06:22 AM   #1
laxisusous
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after FC3 upgrade slow or no http


I recently bought a new machine and put FC3 on it (old machine has RH9). I get my internet from DSL modem by ethernet (not PPPoE). It works fine on RH9. On FC3 I do get connected. All pings work fine, with proper DNS translation. But when I use a browser (browser independant) I can not get to some wesites (yahoo, google) and can get to others (slashdot, memepool) but very slowely. When I use an IP of a site I can't reach (obtained from a ping), I get the site fast, but of course with no images.

I've already done some troubleshooting and here is what I know.

Both machines set to DHCP with no retrievel of DNS from ISP. The DNS listings are the same. Yes I did check resolv.conf.

I have turned off the firewall and SELinux for troubleshooting purposes.

netstat -rn (old)

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0

netstat -rn (new)

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 lo
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0

For some odd reason the new system doesn't add a loopback device to the netstat listing eventhough there is one in ifconfig. The one you see here was added manually by myself, but again this has no effect. The genmask is wrong/odd but I can't seem to control that.

ifconfig (old)

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0A:E6:64:20:15
inet addr:192.168.0.5 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:2555 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2898 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:1782378 (1.6 Mb) TX bytes:481947 (470.6 Kb)
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd400

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:19773 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:19773 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1636899 (1.5 Mb) TX bytes:1636899 (1.5 Mb)

ifconfig (new)

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0B:6A:94:59:C9
inet addr:192.168.0.4 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::20b:6aff:fe94:59c9/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:220 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:264 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:31007 (30.2 KiB) TX bytes:21159 (20.6 KiB)
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd400

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:2497 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2497 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:4558754 (4.3 MiB) TX bytes:4558754 (4.3 MiB)


Thinking it might be the MAC address, I installed a Windows (blech) HD next to my FC3 HD and loaded the ISP configuration software from it. Windows http works fine, no change in FC3. So it isn't hardware or MAC. It has to be a setting inside.

I'm using my rh9 box to send this. What am I missing?

Lyle
 
Old 01-25-2005, 08:11 AM   #2
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laxisusous:

I have a similar problem, i installed Fedora Core3 and i cannot get internet, i can ping all machines on my LAN, but i cant ping or visit ANY external pages. i have the DNS entries in ( not that this affects ping)

If u come up with a solution be sure and let me know, and i do the same likewise
 
Old 02-15-2005, 08:53 PM   #3
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I've tried some more troubleshooting with the same results.

I've tried changing OS'es - Gnoppix gets same results.

I tried Mandrake but it couldn't install (peice of $*@^). It couldn't find my onboard video or internet connection or circa early 90's Epson printer. Waste of $8 for the mail order disk IMHO.

I tried a different/new NIC (ethernet) card. Same results, MS Windows works fine, Linux gets bogged down. I made sure to reset the DSL modem to rule out MAC issues.

I'm starting to run out of ideas.

I tried a traceroute to yahoo on port 80 and it worked as would be expected (i.e. it konks out at the end).

FYI my dsl uses RFC 1483 if that makes any difference. Goggle just told me that RFC 1483 is just a ATM protocol. All the same, if rh9 can support it I have to imagine that fc3 can too.

Can anyone help me please? I got this nice pretty and new machine which is fairly useless to me now.

lax
 
Old 02-22-2005, 08:21 AM   #4
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More strange toubleshooting findings. During a recent rash of needing to reset my DSL modem (dern DSL provider - always konking out) I tried my FC3 right after a successfull reset (which was done in Windows of course - 'I can't get myself clean'). So right away in FC3 I tried to go to yahoo (a page I couldn't get to), and it went there faster than lightning. Slashdot was still slow. I tried other websites that hadn't worked before and they didn't work. A reload of yahoo.com did work, but any other yahoo page wouldn't. I restarted my computer and found that it had returned to its usual behaviour - I couldn't even load yahoo. Argh.

So the problem remains unfixed. Anyone out there have any ideas of tools I could use to actually probe the data streams to see what is specifically being sent and specifically being not received? (Also any one know of a machine that I could get that would download the inteligence into my brain to help me understand these data streams - just kidding)
 
Old 03-02-2005, 06:04 AM   #5
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Okay - more troubleshooting. I installed rh9 on the new machine and it worked great !!! I getting closser. Then I used the same Gnoppix disk that I had used before and that worked!! Feeling lucky I installed fc3 - and - Nope.

I'm thinking there is something unique to fc3 that doesn't like my system. I'll have to shop around for something else. I'm collecting a rather large collection of useless distros. Anyone have any thoughts?
 
Old 03-22-2005, 05:11 AM   #6
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Add another wasted distro. Fedora Core 2 doesn't work either. I'm persuing a lead. It might be a 1.0.0.0 problem where it can't handle the www's. More research is needed.
 
Old 03-23-2005, 02:40 AM   #7
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Solved!!! It was easy to fix. All I had to do was stumble on the answer already posted on this site. Take a look.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ight=actiontec

I just had done a search based on my DSL modem (Actiontec) and found it. I had the worng DNS's in there. All I had to do was put the right ones in there and make sure that it didn't try to get them from the ISP again. Now it works perfect.

I've installed FC3 and everything is groovy.
 
  


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