I am sick and tired with this Google Spyware/Malware called Android. Is there or are there any plans to come out with a real GNU/Linux O.S. for smart phones that actually work on every smart phone that runs Android? Not Linage since it doesn't work on all smart phones. I am looking for something that I have full control over my phone like I have full control over my desktop and laptop computers that I have MX-18.2 Linux on both of them. Is there anything?

Earlier efforts (Firefox OS, Ubuntu for Android) have come to naught.

I have heard of nothing new along those lines, but Tizen seems to be limping along but, as far as I can tell, it's nowhere nearly ready for prime time.

Your best bet is either to drop back to a dumb phone or use your Android carefully, that is, keep location services turned off unless you need it and pay close attention to the permissions of apps you consider installing.

I'll give you an example: I went to install a app to track my bicycle rides and it wanted permission to see my contacts for Pete's sake. I did not install that app.

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Thanks you. The problem is there are no normal phones anymore. The so called smart phone is actually the dumb phone because only dummies who want that Malware/Spyware.

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A while back I looked at e.foundation when it went out for crowdfunding under another name.
Don't know how it has progressed, but seems to have a fair list of supported phones. I liked the concept and seems it might fit you too.

I agree, I don't like them.
Nope, I don't think there is any money in that for a manufacturer.

Problem with little android devices is that there are many different processors that have different instruction sets. You have to compile software that will run on the one that you have. And then some makers won't release their instruction set, so you can't make a compiler that will compile software for it. Marvel is one. So they are not open source devices.

Then they hardware disable the devices ability to connect to things. Like reading from a usb drive. Some will some won't. Then the bootloaders are locked. Some have batteries that can't be changed.

The whole thing is java, only the most unsecure platform on earth. I look at them as a toy. You have to use them, I just don't do anything important on them.

I rooted an android device a while back, then put a tcpdump binary on it. Opened up a jackpal terminal and launched it. It sat there and talked to google, amazon, adobe, and apparently any law enforcement, airport rent a cop, can just illegally take it from you and search it whenever they want. So delete everything you do on one after you do it.

There are a lot of people who depend of these and simply have no other choice but to use one. They are a perfect government surveillance tool. Even if you delete stuff off of the phone, the telco still has a record of some of it.

There is a plethora of software/apps for the things. That's why they are so popular, an app for everything. The facebook generation that shares how many times they go to the bathroom with the rest of the world...I don't think they care or think about security. Plus they have been indoctrinated into "government knows best"

There have been some distributions like arch that have an arm version. But only for some processors. They are all very different.
And then some won't open source their processor instructions. Then there is the sound hardware, video hardware, network device hardware...And arm is a moving target that changes frequently. There has to be some kind of financial incentive to keep up with that.

For a desktop you only have to support the instruction set for intel and amd ia64 x86, 32 and or 64 bit, and it's open source. Make a compiler that compilers for that processors set, you have software for everybody.

I don't think that you are going to see a little open bootloader, install what you want on, little handheld device like that. No money in it for a manufacturer. Been tried a few times. No groundswell of support for it.

Instead of installing apps for everything, install a little browser like naked browser that allows scripts to be turned off. Then make a little html file with all of your links, call that as the home page to the little browser. And if you don't know about fdroid then look at that. And then treat it like what it is. A toy.

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That's a lame false excuse from Google's puppets on why they can't come out with a replacement. I am one of them that depend on a cell phone but I don't want all that garbage on it and want FULL control of my phone. Android is the same as Windows 10, Spyware and Malware garbage! It's like Google owns my phone and not me because I have no control over the phone.

the librem 5 is definitely coming out sooner or later (this year), and it will have a true gnu/linux os on it.

That looks nice. I've read about PureOS before. Always glad to see competition.

That part about not tracking you is a misrepresentation though. If you use the cell phone company they can track you by triangulation from 3 cell towers.
Then someone with a badge on can take it from you anytime they want I Guess. I don't believe that you can keep "government" out of your phone, and they are the biggest threat to liberty and privacy that exists.

Little pricey for me. Especially when the telco will give you a free android phone to sign up with them. I know I know, I just griped about android and now I won't put my money where my mouth is.

But that's the hurdles that will have to be overcome.

i'm pretty sure the phrasing is "the phone that does not track you" or sth like that.
which is then true (also in comparison for android, where the phone does actively track you); you are talking about tracking done outside the phone.
personally, i also find it obvious that some parts are simply out of the hands of the phone/OS manufacturer.
but sure, it's better to mention it than not.

in any case, that's what the hardware kill switches are there for, and the baseband separation!

but yeah, puri.sm are a commercial entity, and as i already said elsewhere, they will do anything to sell their product, but i do believe they stick to the law, i.e. do not make outright false promises.

and it's not going to be particularly powerful either.
that's precisely the point where these sort of projects have been struggling for a decade now.
I'm not sure, but I seem to see a slight downwards trend in pricing.
i think we're getting there, slowly.
The 2nd version of the librem 5 might well be mine in the future. let them iron out all the bugs first.

incidentally and slightly off topic, this librem 5 project gives me new respect for the GNOME DE (but I'm sure KDE is equal if not better in that dept.).

I heard about PureOS that looks like Linux. I wonder what will come of it. Maybe something worthwhile?

It doesn't look like it's for these so called smart phones. I couldn't take it anymore and went back to using an old style flip phone for health reasons. Now I have a phone that does what I want it to do unlike the Google virus called Android that is basically, Spyware/Malware that does what Google wants it to do and not what I want it to do.

I don't think so,some of the software is pretty good.

The Librem 5 will run a version of PureOS; so yes, PureOS is for smartphones - or that specific one at least.
I think a large part of the community is hoping that later it might be available for other hardware too.
PureOS is GNOME-based - in other words, GNOME are working hard on making their UI mobile friendly.
There's another project around KDE/Plasma, some say it's even better, but I don't have the details atm.

in the meantime you my want to take a look to this

https://fossbytes.com/use-android-wi...-alternatives/

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