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#1: no idea
#2: yes, a linux/GNU phone be snappier than the same phone running android
#3: this is called convergence in Linux mobile speak
#4: probably yes. RISC?
#5: read this thread. And don't love appimages, they will bring your phone to its knees. Different discussion that.
#1 The Pinephone is made up of 4 "Little Cores"
Is this for the sake of making a simple/easy/cheap platform to move linux phone development/take up rates? For example how well does big.LITTLE work on the linux/GNU OS on mobile hardware with ARM cores?
Yes it's to keep the price down. From what I understand, the Librem 5 and the PinePhone use the same cores in their CPUs although the Librem's cpu is newer and clocked higher. Both are still fairly power hungry and have a fairly short battery life compared to an Android.
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#2 Related to #1 : for a high end Octacore phone (4 big + 4 little cores) would a linux/GNU phone be snappier than the same phone running android?
Yes, especially GPU accelerated OS's.
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#3 Are there plans to develop "Samsung Dex" feature for linux phones? Can a linux phone have 2 Desktop Environments for example - one mobile/touch (default) and another DE that works best with mouse/keyboard?
Even though you can, you don't need 2 desktops anymore. Most of the current options support convergence out of the box. This means plug a usb-c dock into your phone and connect a monitor and keyboard/mouse and the windows can be managed like a regular desktop. If you unplug the dock it switches back to mobile mode. A lot of apps now support mobile and desktop just by resizing.
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#5 Lastly i noticed people have been using Pinephones as daily drivers? Which current OS is best at making/taking calls/sms/camera? Let say one loves appimages - which linux distro would run fastest on pinephone hardware and allow installing apps via appimages ya think?
There is really no "Best". Just as there is no best with desktop linux. Most distros support calls/sms/camera, its more of a carrier thing anymore.
Because a x86 AppImage won't run on an ARM device. There are hardly any AppImages for ARM. I know it works great on the RaspberryPi but I haven't tried it on my PinePhone yet. Besides, you don't "install" apps via AppImages
Because a x86 AppImage won't run on an ARM device. There are hardly any AppImages for ARM. I know it works great on the RaspberryPi but I haven't tried it on my PinePhone yet. Besides, you don't "install" apps via AppImages
Oh wow learnt something new about appimages for ARM i had a talk wif fellow linux newbies and we think if a linux phone works a lot like a droid one i.e everything gets done by tapping many who have not even took the time to explore linux would be more keen to get on the bandwagon? of course for non newbies the option to get things done via terminal would always be there - do you think this makes sense (for those new/alien to linux gnu) Maybe a Voice Asst/AI called "Tux" that does what advance terminal command would? For example saying on the phone "Tux install GIMP" does the entire process for the user haha
i had a talk wif fellow linux newbies and we think if a linux phone works a lot like a droid one i.e everything gets done by tapping many who have not even took the time to explore linux would be more keen to get on the bandwagon? of course for non newbies the option to get things done via terminal would always be there - do you think this makes sense
Currently most Linux Mobile interfaces are touch and swipe based, the exception would be SXMO(Suckless Mobile) which uses swipe/hardware buttons. There's a nice selection available. They are getting quite good, however currently I don't think either the PinePhone or the Librem 5 are ready for Linux beginners.
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(for those new/alien to linux gnu) Maybe a Voice Asst/AI called "Tux" that does what advance terminal command would? For example saying on the phone "Tux install GIMP" does the entire process for the user haha
I think there are some voice assistants for Linux but I can't remember where I seen that. Hardly a good idea since typing apt install gimp does it all for you already Plus most mobile distros include a gui app "store".
Not sure how useful it would be for a phone but looks really neat for coding in the go. Just replaces the back cover. I think a slide out would be nicer but I also like the idea of that extra battery in the keyboard.
Bit confusing, that page. It's all in prototype phase it seems.
PinePhone is one of the best things that happened to the world of FLOSS for a long time...
But I have both a working N900 sitting here, and a Motorola Droid 4 waiting for me to install Maemo Leste on it. And a Sony Xperia XA2 with SailfishOS. I'm not bragging, but I'm saturated for the near-mid future.
Parts have become available and the Pinephone Beta is going on pre-order now. This Beta is meant for DEVELOPERS, so please do not jump on it if you do not develop Linux for phones. The point is that once this is out in more developers hands a public-ready version is only a matter of time, parts, and coding.
I've been flip-flopping on the Pinephone for well over a year and it was actually the Short Circuit video that at the same time impressed the hell out of me but made me hesitate and hesitate for maybe a year. It's because of noting the lack of power and weak battery. There seems little room for doubt that will all be fixed but it may take a year or more to do so. I'm actually toying with the idea of buying a refurbed, unlocked Samsung but the prices are so high compared to my low need for a smartphone that I will probably just wait another year for Pinephone to step up. They've come so far in just one year, shoot! even in just a few months! it's likely worth it to wait a wee bit longer. Hopefully enterprising devs will jump on the Beta. It's pretty exciting.
I was looking into getting a tablet with linux and would be awesome it if had mint on it.
What would be the best 10" plus tablet to test for this?
Right now there are very few options. Pine64 developed the PineTab that uses the same CPU as the PinePhone, but due to the LCD shortage, the production is currently halted. There is also a Chinese company that's running a Kickstarter for a tablet running JingOS Linux. No idea what the specs are.
I was looking into getting a tablet with linux and would be awesome it if had mint on it.
What would be the best 10" plus tablet to test for this?
I believe there's a few consumer products that should be Linux-capable without much hassle. Pre-installed is always a tall order, though.
I'd look for Windows Tablets that others have installed Linux on.
I'd look for Ubuntu's list of supported devices (which should extend to Linux Mint).
I'd look on Mr Chromebox' site for supported devices
A simple search for "linux tablet" might also help.
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