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Old 10-30-2020, 03:44 PM   #16
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Edit: oops, just noticed that the suggestion of /e/ was already made.

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I'm looking for a phone that doesn't have a bunch of crap and data mining included
Opinions or advice?
I suggest /e/. It's a de-googled phone (meaning, it's Android but with most of Google's crap and data mining stuff removed). https://e.foundation/

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Old 10-31-2020, 06:09 AM   #17
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^ stress on most, not all.

Anyhow, I don't think /e/ is available for the 2 devices mentioned in this thread.

I also suspect that OP and enorbet are actually thinking of a GNU/Linux operating system(*) when they say "Linux phone".
Because Android already uses the Linux kernel.

As pointed out by Mill J, SailfishOS(*) currently seems to be the most viable option, if you have a suitable device.
I'm not fanboying Sailfish, it is far from perfect, both ethically & technically, and probably not even the "best" option, but they've been doing this for a decade already...

(*) I cannot stress this enough.
SSH into your phone and be in full control of everything.
Run all your (non-GUI) scripts straight away (and GUI frontends exist for that).
Lot of CLI utilities already compiled for the CPU architecture, as well as some GUI programs.
Etc., etc...

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Old 10-31-2020, 01:46 PM   #18
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Thank you very much Mill J. That's exactly the sort of feedback I'd like. I have gotten the impression things are changing for the better fast and it's great to get some confirmation that impression is deserved.

The January 15 date came from a blog update linked on the Pine64 website.

Another impression is that Postmarket OS is currently the leader. I'll likely start with it.

Your feedback on battery life is most welcome. That length of time suits me just fine. I have a Vonage account that I like very much for handling voice calls. Cell phone needs are just texting and the more obvious of how many applications, signups, etc require a mobile number. It is probably likely my use case will grow with the Pine64 but I go out so little battery life will never be an issue.
 
Old 10-31-2020, 06:02 PM   #19
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The January 15 date came from a blog update linked on the Pine64 website.
Very likely you were reading the November 2019 blog. The Manjaro Edition is being received by end users already. And being as they are still in stock as of now, you could likely have one fairly promptly. I got mine 4 days after it shipped but it shipped about a month after I order(I ordered early )

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Another impression is that Postmarket OS is currently the leader. I'll likely start with it.
Let's get something out of the way here. There is no leader. Most projects are "ahead" one time or another, sometimes that last mere hours. PMOS is probably the fastest booting but I dont think they have Crust implemented on suspend yet (any day now) which means on my device I get about 6-8 max of standby time. However that said, Most distros are using Megi's kernels and patches so on the kernel level they are basically same.


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Your feedback on battery life is most welcome. That length of time suits me just fine. I have a Vonage account that I like very much for handling voice calls. Cell phone needs are just texting and the more obvious of how many applications, signups, etc require a mobile number. It is probably likely my use case will grow with the Pine64 but I go out so little battery life will never be an issue.
Like I said I haven't tested the cellular features much since the sim I had originally worked only in town and I way always to busy to tinker when I was there. Hopefully when winter sets in I'll be able to get that working.

Some advice. Get one. Compared to most phones, it's lousy. But the more tech savy people end up with it, the faster it will become usable. I don't know if you use live chats but there is a pinephone chat bridged between telegram, matrix, discord, and irc. Very helpful for keeping up to date with the devs and newbies and everything in between. I use telegram so it works out of the box on Mobian


I wonder why there is no Slarmobile (Slackware Arm) project yet
 
Old 10-31-2020, 07:31 PM   #20
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I wonder about Slarmobile too but suspect all focus is on 15 release right now. I figure I can always change which is yet another cool thing about the Pine - battery pops out and so does the drive.

I think I will "pull the trigger" and order one this week. My needs are beyond minimal thanks to staying at home and Vonage. I'd likely be pleased if it would just do decent SMS. Voice calls would be a plus but not quite a deal breaker. It probably pays to get started now as at some point it will get so good that with stuff like KDEConnect and docks to connect to keyboard, mouse, and full size monitor I can offload a fair bit from my PC and pare down to just do optimized Gaming and DAW work on it.

Thanks again Mill J.
 
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I figure I can always change which is yet another cool thing about the Pine - battery pops out and so does the drive.
The removable battery is really nice. Not sure what you mean by removable drive. The internal emmc is soldered to the board and not easily replaceable, however the ability to boot off a regular micro sd is just plain awesome. No need to wear out the emmc by constantly flashing it. And now with p-boot we can do more than dual boot https://xnux.eu/p-boot-demo/, this is good way to get an initial feel for the many options available without frying an sd with too many writes.
 
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Yeah battery "pops out" was literal, drive was figurative
 
  


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