This is the last straw. I am dumping Apple's products. Have an iPhone and iPad. Their latest policy pertains to the iCloud. One has to Agree to Their terms which allows them to snoop at my pictures and allows 3rd party app developers to store data in MY personal iCloud account AND allows Apple to collect, store, and process such data on behalf of the 3rd party app developer and it does not stop there. I have not been an Apple fan for the past ten years but this intrusion of MY personal data will be my termination with them and their "services".

After hearing of this I called Apple's Technical Support for instruction on turning off my iCloud and I cannot even do that without AGREEING to their new iCloud terms. I cannot do a backup OR install the latest Operating System 15 without again AGREEING to their iCloud terms.

I reside in the USA. Do I have any alternatives? NO Google either and no Huawei.

Thank you

Good luck with it, all of these companies are using everyone as their personal playground to use and abuse them for profit. Personally I would have thought their support of the slave labour they use in its manufacturing and the genocide being committed during that would have been the deal breaker, it has been for me and buying anymore of their products.. You can go with something open source like a Pine phone to try to get around it.


https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/

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Yes. There's quite a few phones that can be flashed with alternative OSs. And then there is the PinePhone if you really want to go far out

Start checking some alternative OSs and see which phones are supported.

That strikes out AOSP based custom ROMs.
Couple cans and a piece of string ?.

Due to my limited experience with some of the phones what do you mean of your statement about the Pine Phone?

The PinePhone is probably the most well known "Linux Phone", but it's still considered a beta/bleeding edge device. If you're used to the latest iPhone, or Android, this phone is quite a step back in features. This device is very cool and is quite an achievement as it's supported by quite a few mobile OS projects. However it's not a drop in replacement for the big two yet and probably never will be fully since banking, social media and other locked down stuff probably won't ever be supported. This is completely fine for me, but not for most people.

All in all no matter what alternative OS you go with, you will lose features. I consider this desirable if those features involve spying, tracking, or other data collection.

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When I was growing up on hearing of companies doing business with countries using slave labor was outrageous and condemned. Nowadays people don't care or that aspect doesn't concern them. I have a huge problem with this. Today I am going to order the Pine Phone and though it's backordered it will be a relief to get away from these tech giants. I care little for social media. It's a swamp. I realize it will not have the bells and whistles as what I have now, I will have my principles. Thank you for your reply.

Indeed the almighty dollar is all that matters now sadly, these corporate parasites just go about with their get it as cheap as possible so my bonus will be bigger. I try to avoid it as much as is possible but its hard to do as most of what is bought is made using it, all the major brands do it. Shoes, clothes, computers and electronics it has infiltrated everything. Good to see someone else that cares enough to try and avoid it like I try to, hard as hell to get it done though a lot of the time you have no choice if you need an item and there is no other source.

There's a thread on it here: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ne-4175698028/

I want a phone which gives me voice and texting. That's it. I don't want apps, social media, Facetime, and all the other gimmicks which data mine and know where I am at every minute of my life. This evening I am placing an order for the Pine Phone and won't look back. This is my first step turning my back to these terrible people whose only concern is profit for control and power.
Appreciate your input. Thank you.

If you really mean that, you can get cheaper devices than PinePhone, e.g: Nokia 225 4G.

You can turn a smartphone into a dumbphone by not entering the APN.
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What OS does this Nokia presently have which of course will be reformatted and Linux installed.

What do you mean by APN?
Thanks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Point_Name. Duckduckgo is your friend

It doesn't have an OS. It's a phone, not a computer. And it won't run Linux or any other OS. But if you only want to make calls and send or receive texts, that should be good enough. Don't young people nowadays know what a telephone is?