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Old 11-26-2019, 01:35 PM   #76
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Some users of its predecessor complained that that one's Linux support was somewhat lacking.
Even Sailfish wasn't perfect iirc.
I received a positive repy letting me know they were shipping pre-orders from Indegogo and were about to start shipping generally but, if I wanted next-day delivery thewy'de advise I hold-off until January. When I received the email I checked the website and, yes, they're not "pre-order" any more.
So, sometime in 2020 I may be using a Linux phone!?
Wow, the years have really just gone by...
 
Old 11-28-2019, 01:33 AM   #77
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So, sometime in 2020 I may be using a Linux phone!?
Wow, the years have really just gone by...
As I mentioned before elsewhere, GNU/Linux phones aren't exactly a new thing.
Off the top of my head I can think of:
OpenMoko
Nokia's Maemo and Meego devices
Various SOC kits, e.g.

The hype (and the tendency to rip customers off just like everywhere else) seems to be a new thing though.
 
Old 12-01-2019, 02:16 AM   #78
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I did transfer my SIM card from my Galaxy Nexus phone (running LineageOS) to my LG Nexus 5 phone running Ubuntu Touch. So, I am now using a Linux phone. I quite like it. It has fewer bells and whistles than my LineageOS phone had, which I feel is preferable and more down to Earth.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 01:54 PM   #79
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As I mentioned before elsewhere, GNU/Linux phones aren't exactly a new thing.
Off the top of my head I can think of:
OpenMoko
Nokia's Maemo and Meego devices
Various SOC kits, e.g.

The hype (and the tendency to rip customers off just like everywhere else) seems to be a new thing though.
I won't lie -- as my previous posts somewhat declare I am as interested in the form-factor as the OS because just running Linux does not make a device "good".
From what I can gather the GNU/Linux support of the device I'm looking at is being actively worked on by the manufacturer. Yes, I'll reserve judgement on whether that's any good.
The Nokia devices were great but Nokia, for whatever reason, felt compelled to make customers pay for two, very expensive, devices rather than creating a real "smart phone". Not sure whether it was just bad timing or shareholder greed but it killed them nevertheless.
 
Old 12-04-2019, 11:30 PM   #80
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I recently bought a smartphone, Galaxy Nexus, originally equipped with Android 4.
That was my former phone. It works well with LineageOS (13, which equals Android 6.01). However, you need to build it now, because official releases have stopped. Here's some instructions. For "The Muppets", I think the two vendors to include were Samsung and Ti (and maybe Google).
 
Old 12-05-2019, 03:24 AM   #81
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The Nokia devices were great but Nokia, for whatever reason, felt compelled to make customers pay for two, very expensive, devices rather than creating a real "smart phone". Not sure whether it was just bad timing or shareholder greed but it killed them nevertheless.
Not sure what you're talking about there, but how is this "not a real smartphone"?

And while Nokia undoubtedly made some bad business decisions, it was ultimately Microsoft that killed them by proxy, and then jumped in to gobble up what was left.
In other words, letting Stephen Elop take over was the fatal, worst decision that killed them.

And to date Nokia's Meego/Maemo models are the only ones that run real GNU/Linux stable and fully usable (well, arguably also SailfishOS, which is born from the previous).
 
Old 12-05-2019, 01:57 PM   #82
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Not sure what you're talking about there, but how is this "not a real smartphone"?

And while Nokia undoubtedly made some bad business decisions, it was ultimately Microsoft that killed them by proxy, and then jumped in to gobble up what was left.
In other words, letting Stephen Elop take over was the fatal, worst decision that killed them.

And to date Nokia's Meego/Maemo models are the only ones that run real GNU/Linux stable and fully usable (well, arguably also SailfishOS, which is born from the previous).
the linked article sums it up -- too little too late. By the time Nokia decided to put out a hugely-priced Linux phone I'd been using Windows Phone already. Yes, my love of a real keyboard came into it but that phone was overpriced when it came out, for starters.
 
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Rather than edit and pretend I recalled the date, this is the device I'd been using 4 years before Nokia launched that:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Universal
 
Old 12-05-2019, 02:19 PM   #84
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Google for "Librem 5 phone" and "pinephone".
They are in the works which means that they are not available yet.
 
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Well, I have the Cosmo now and it is taking some getting used to. No Linux support as-yet but the hardware is pretty good, so far.
If/when I see Lin ux support I'll update, if not before.
 
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No Linux support as-yet
What, none at all??? :sad: What about SailfishOS?
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but the hardware is pretty good, so far.
I guess it is. How about usability in situations where you don't open it up? Answering calls, changing audio tracks etc.?
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If/when I see Lin ux support I'll update, if not before.
So there's something in the works?
 
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What, none at all??? :sad: What about SailfishOS?

I guess it is. How about usability in situations where you don't open it up? Answering calls, changing audio tracks etc.?
So there's something in the works?
I was annoyed myself that the YouTube video of dual-boot they posted was just of a development test, but I really must ask them for beta-testing if available. So, yes, no Linux at all at present.
The outside screen is just a notification area but things like marking email read and the like can be done on it. I haven't yet, made or taken a call but it's just like a more old-fashioned phone (on the outside screen) from what I can gather so it's just selecting contacts or pressing answer. Looks OK, but nothing exciting as I hoped. There should be the ability to change what is displayed on the outside screen and extra functionality but, again like the Linux support, it's not released yet.

So far I'm happy to have a cool little computer instead of a slab of glass phone but it does require a fair few software tweaks to make it recommendable to anyone not looking for precisely this kind of device.
Oh, should mention, great for using SSH and screen to IRC chat from my Pi at home (stops disconnections when turning the phone off, etc.) because having a real Ctrl key and the like is great. Should I set up the Minecraft server I'm considering building I could see myself using the Cosmo regularly for routine command-line maintenance.
 
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hi m8
as feb 2020 is near and iphone 4 whatsup is going to be not working again cant the system be change to linux touch?hope my question will be answered
 
  


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