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jthomas87 04-19-2016 09:09 PM

An x86-based Linux tablet design poll
 
Just throwing this out there for input from the forum.

If you could have an x86-based Linux tablet, what would you want in it for specs: CPU (speed vs battery saver), RAM size, storage size, SSD vs EMMC, screen size, ports, keyboard (yes or no?)?

Just trying to get an idea what a Linux user would want in a tablet as opposed to a Android or WIndows user.

Germany_chris 04-20-2016 08:22 AM

I don't want an x86 based tablet..

But 4:3, 32GB on board with SD card expansion, 3GB is enough, 10" is fine, and yes a keyboard

ondoho 04-20-2016 02:20 PM

i want something like this - a real PC laptop with a real hard drive and a real (though slightly smaller) keyboard, no effing touchscreen.
legendary battery life - but with modern hardware specs please (nothing over the top, but watching movies encoded in HEVC would be nice)

Mitt Green 04-20-2016 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 5534113)
i want something like this - a real PC laptop with a real hard drive and a real (though slightly smaller) keyboard, no effing touchscreen.
legendary battery life - but with modern hardware specs please (nothing over the top, but watching movies encoded in HEVC would be nice)

It's called netbook :rolleyes: :D

jthomas87 04-20-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 5533965)
I don't want an x86 based tablet..

But 4:3, 32GB on board with SD card expansion, 3GB is enough, 10" is fine, and yes a keyboard

Out of curiosity, why no x86? That is what most of Linux software is coded for.

I ask simply to get your reasoning for no x86, not saying you are wrong.

Germany_chris 04-21-2016 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jthomas87 (Post 5534189)
Out of curiosity, why no x86? That is what most of Linux software is coded for.

I ask simply to get your reasoning for no x86, not saying you are wrong.

Philosophical..I think Intel has been king for too long and I want ARM to beat Intel in the SOC market since AMD doesn't really make SOCs.

ondoho 04-22-2016 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitt Green (Post 5534122)
It's called netbook :rolleyes: :D

yes.
but they're not exactly common these days, esp. tablet-sized and reasonably specced.

i guess the literal answer to op's question is:

"I don't want another fondleslab, I want a small but real computer."

jthomas87 04-22-2016 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 5534868)
yes.
but they're not exactly common these days, esp. tablet-sized and reasonably specced.

i guess the literal answer to op's question is:

"I don't want another fondleslab, I want a small but real computer."

Would these specs:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...2444682&type=3

meet your requirements (click on the pictures) ?

How about this form factor:

https://www.facebook.com/57656803244...type=3&theater

Just tossing it out there for consideration.

Now if you could get that in a Linux only or Linux/Windows 10 Dual-boot, would that help?

ondoho 04-22-2016 01:29 AM

yes, and yes.
but ubuntu touch can hardly be considered linux anymore.
that's the problem with tablets: you're getting pushed into the hardware compatibility corner, and only android comes as a rescue.
that's why i wrote "real PC".

jthomas87 04-22-2016 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 5534887)
yes, and yes.
but ubuntu touch can hardly be considered linux anymore.
that's the problem with tablets: you're getting pushed into the hardware compatibility corner, and only android comes as a rescue.
that's why i wrote "real PC".

I understand what you are asking for, as I myself have an eMachines E-250 netbook and was looking for a replacement for it.

That 2 in 1 device I linked to doesn't run Ubuntu Touch, at least not yet, and from the looks of the x86 Touch development, probably not ever since they seem focused on ARM CPU's.

It will have regular x64 Ubuntu Unity Desktop 16.04 LTS as the initial default OS. Testing is also going on to add install/support for Linux Mint, Fedora Linux, Kali Linux, and OpenSUSE Linux. The support comes in the form of providing touch screen and other hardware support to make these distros work properly on this tablet series. That is in addition to providing either Windows 10 Home or Windows 10 Professional if so desired.

The specs are comparable, and in some cases better, than a large number of other name brand laptops you will find at BestBuy or Walmart in it's price range, including adding the optional keyboard.

I hope that clarifies things a bit. I know when people see tablet, they are thinking underpowered toys, but this tablet design is for more than just media consumption. This tablet could be used for media creation. Ubuntu Studio interest anyone?

How about a kids tablet, with a Debian-based distro that the kids and grandkids could learn on? Any interest in that? A dual-boot setup would be pretty easy. One distro for mom or dad, another for the kids, one that they can't hurt the OS or the tablet playing/learning with it.

What I am saying is this tablet line could be a real game changer, with nearly endless options, something that the whole family could use.

ondoho 04-22-2016 01:30 PM

my previous post was a little hasty and not properly thought through.

anyhow...
Quote:

Originally Posted by jthomas87 (Post 5535016)
It will have regular x64 Ubuntu Unity Desktop 16.04 LTS as the initial default OS. Testing is also going on to add install/support for Linux Mint, Fedora Linux, Kali Linux, and OpenSUSE Linux. The support comes in the form of providing touch screen and other hardware support to make these distros work properly on this tablet series.

so if i'm willing to go through that myself, i can install anything on it?

also, could we have a link to a specs page for that device?
you only linked the image.

jthomas87 04-22-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 5535115)
my previous post was a little hasty and not properly thought through.

anyhow...

so if i'm willing to go through that myself, i can install anything on it?

also, could we have a link to a specs page for that device?
you only linked the image.

Sure, here is a link to each spec sheet. Click on each picture and it will bring if up in full size.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...76568032444682

The first link I posted in my last post was similar in function, but each picture was a comparison of the MJ Tablet design compared to big name tablets. These pics are just the tablet's specs by themselves.

Due to the nature of the touch drivers being developed, MJ Technology would be providing an new ISO file for the different distros, pre-loaded with the tablet's required drivers built in.

I have asked about a possible closed binary blob or package like Nvidia or ATI closed-source video drivers, but that isn't an option per the lead dev. They are trying to protect the drivers they built from scratch from being poached by some cheap Chinese tablet maker, and supporting packages like that takes a lot of time and manpower. Rolling a new ISO with the added drivers is much simpler and quicker. That is beyond my background, I am just passing on what I was told.

ondoho 04-22-2016 02:19 PM

what's with all those facebook pages?
here's a proper review:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-A....162245.0.html

jthomas87 04-22-2016 02:23 PM

Sorry, the FB links I posted were off the companie's FB page.

They had the most current specs within the embedded pictures.

jthomas87 04-22-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 5535143)
what's with all those facebook pages?
here's a proper review:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-A....162245.0.html

Sorry, I had forgotten about that review. I even commented on it at the bottom. :-)


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