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Old 05-09-2017, 06:45 AM   #1
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Touch VPN - Poptop


from what I can see this is VPN program to allow you to emulate being located somewhere else?

A friend has this for his Android device, and I searched to see if there was a Linux Mint version.
There is, but trying to install it has baffled me, as I cannot see the VPN being listed anywhere on the menu. I was expecting it to appear under Internet, but canít see anything anywhere.

I followed the instructions and typed
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apt-get install pptp-linux
in terminal. It seemed to go ahead and install it, but thatís as far as Iíve got, and no further.
 
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PPTP has several security issues - I wouldn't use it if I were you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-...eling_Protocol

Where did you find the instructions that asked you to install pptp-linux? That just installs a PPTP client, you still have to sort out the connection to the VPN provider.

If you want to try out VPNs, I would suggest that installing Fruho, which uses openvpn, would be a good start. Then all you need to do is set up the login details for one or more VPN providers.
 
Old 05-11-2017, 10:26 AM   #3
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PPTP has several security issues - I wouldn't use it if I were you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-...eling_Protocol

Where did you find the instructions that asked you to install pptp-linux? That just installs a PPTP client, you still have to sort out the connection to the VPN provider.

If you want to try out VPNs, I would suggest that installing Fruho, which uses openvpn, would be a good start. Then all you need to do is set up the login details for one or more VPN providers.
Hi hydrurga,

I'm honestly not being evasive, but I can't say definitely, as I looked at a few search results that eventually led me to it. I did search "touch vpn linux" which got me there eventually. I can see sourceforge have some links to it.
In the software manager I also entered poptop and d/l it, as I'd seen that phrase when looking for touch vpn.
I've now uninstalled it.

I've just used software manager to search for open vpn. That tells me I have it installed already, but again I can't see where it is from the menu.
If I enter "open vpn" or "openvpn" in the menu search box, it shows nothing.
Is it hidden away somewhere?
 
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Openvpn is like the engine (and is run on the command line), you still have to download the certificate bundles or manually set up openvpn for the VPN providers that you wish to use.

See here for examples (the first also installs a GUI manager similar to Fruho that I mentioned):

https://support.purevpn.com/openvpn-...for-linux-mint

https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1965

I have no connection to or would particularly recommend either VPN provider in the links. They were just the first two to come up in a web search.
 
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:46 PM   #5
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Openvpn is like the engine (and is run on the command line), you still have to download the certificate bundles or manually set up openvpn for the VPN providers that you wish to use.

See here for examples (the first also installs a GUI manager similar to Fruho that I mentioned):

https://support.purevpn.com/openvpn-...for-linux-mint

https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1965

I have no connection to or would particularly recommend either VPN provider in the links. They were just the first two to come up in a web search.
Hi again hydrurga,

I've spent some time looking at the links you kindly provided. For me, I'd need go for the gui option, as I'm not at all comfortable using terminal commands.

I notice reading the purevpn link that installs a gui, says I need to buy a purevpn account before I start? I've not gone any further as Touch vpn is free, but I assume I can't use the gui for that, if I'm forced to buy a purevpn account to install it?

Or have I misread it? Hmm.
 
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Some VPNs are paying, some are not. Often a VPN will have a free, more restricted, option as well as paying options.

You should download Fruho and try something like SecurityKISS or VpnBook which have free options.
 
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Some VPNs are paying, some are not. Often a VPN will have a free, more restricted, option as well as paying options.

You should download Fruho and try something like SecurityKISS or VpnBook which have free options.
Following the first option, I do have trouble understanding what it's saying & what it all means when copying and pasting these instructions. They don't always seem to follow exactly what it says on the screen.

When I got to
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sudo restart network-manager
I saw the message "Command not found"
Any idea on that?
 
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You shouldn't be following those instructions, at least until their conclusion, unless you have a premium PureVPN account (as it says in the instructions) and I don't recommend that for the moment, or at all, because you haven't even tried out any of the free VPNs yet to see what they're like. It was, on reflection, a mistake of mine to post those links - I just wanted to illustrate for you the sorts of procedure that one has to go through to set up a VPN with a particular provider, that it doesn't work automatically once you have openvpn installed on your computer.

It's much easier with Fruho.

As for the precise error message, no idea, sorry.
 
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You shouldn't be following those instructions, at least until their conclusion, unless you have a premium PureVPN account (as it says in the instructions) and I don't recommend that for the moment, or at all, because you haven't even tried out any of the free VPNs yet to see what they're like. It was, on reflection, a mistake of mine to post those links - I just wanted to illustrate for you the sorts of procedure that one has to go through to set up a VPN with a particular provider, that it doesn't work automatically once you have openvpn installed on your computer.

It's much easier with Fruho.

As for the precise error message, no idea, sorry.
Oh, right.
I did misunderstand that about "installs a gui manager similar to Fruho", I thought that was similar enough to be the one to use.
Do I need to remove anything I've installed, and if so how?

So I've looked for Fruho in Synaptic Package Manager and Software Manager, but found nothing. Googling finds: https://www.fruho.com/download but how do I know which one of the two (if either?) to use on Mint? Linux Deb, or Linux rpm?

Plus, do I paste one of those commands into Terminal, are they both for 64 bit versions of Mint? I see if I click open a new tab for 32 or 64 bit versions of both of those, it asks me to d/l a file.
As you may remember from my previous experience, that just causes me panic, as I wouldn't have a clue what to due with any d/l file?
 
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No need to uninstall anything. I'm running Mint 18.1 too and have both network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome installed.

Rpm is a package format used by the Red Hat family (Fedora, RHEL, CentOS etc.) and others.

Deb is a package format used by the Debian family (Debian, Ubuntu, Mint etc.) and others.

Click on the 64-bit deb link to download it to your desktop or downloads folder (depending on how you have set up your browser) and double-click on the downloaded file to install the package.
 
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:38 PM   #11
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No need to uninstall anything. I'm running Mint 18.1 too and have both network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome installed.

Rpm is a package format used by the Red Hat family (Fedora, RHEL, CentOS etc.) and others.

Deb is a package format used by the Debian family (Debian, Ubuntu, Mint etc.) and others.

Click on the 64-bit deb link to download it to your desktop or downloads folder (depending on how you have set up your browser) and double-click on the downloaded file to install the package.
Well that worked fine, thanks for your help.

When I double-clicked the d/l, there was a message appear at the top of the window: "All dependencies are satisfied", whatever that means.
It didn't stop the installation working, but if only sometimes there could be messages in plain English for us hard-of-learning types!

I created a free SecurityKISS account. It works fine if I lookup my IP or geo-location, but it doesn't work for everything.
There was one UK website that insisted I wasn't in the UK, although I set it to use a UK server. When I looked in the FAQ, the UK website said if it wasn't sure I was in the UK, or detected I was using a VPN it wouldn't allow access. So it's not foolproof, but it works for some things, and it's free, so I can't really complain.

Once again, thanks for the assistance hydrurga.
 
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Well that worked fine, thanks for your help.

When I double-clicked the d/l, there was a message appear at the top of the window: "All dependencies are satisfied", whatever that means.
It didn't stop the installation working, but if only sometimes there could be messages in plain English for us hard-of-learning types!

I created a free SecurityKISS account. It works fine if I lookup my IP or geo-location, but it doesn't work for everything.
There was one UK website that insisted I wasn't in the UK, although I set it to use a UK server. When I looked in the FAQ, the UK website said if it wasn't sure I was in the UK, or detected I was using a VPN it wouldn't allow access. So it's not foolproof, but it works for some things, and it's free, so I can't really complain.

Once again, thanks for the assistance hydrurga.
Packages in Linux may or may not have dependencies. These are other packages which are also needed to be installed for a certain package to work. In this case, all of Fruho's dependent packages were already installed on your system ("All dependencies are satisfied") so Fruho could be installed. If this weren't the case, the installer would have advised you which packages you should install first before it could install Fruho.

As you've found out, some larger sites, such as the BBC, have got wise to people using VPNs and keep track of the IP addresses used by as many VPNs as it can, refusing to accept that the user is actually in the UK when their IP address matches one of the addresses in the list.

Glad you've got it working though.
 
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Packages in Linux may or may not have dependencies. These are other packages which are also needed to be installed for a certain package to work. In this case, all of Fruho's dependent packages were already installed on your system ("All dependencies are satisfied") so Fruho could be installed. If this weren't the case, the installer would have advised you which packages you should install first before it could install Fruho.

As you've found out, some larger sites, such as the BBC, have got wise to people using VPNs and keep track of the IP addresses used by as many VPNs as it can, refusing to accept that the user is actually in the UK when their IP address matches one of the addresses in the list.

Glad you've got it working though.
Thanks for the translation to English. I see you're a mind-reader too - yes, it was the BBC website!
 
  


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