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Old 12-02-2019, 06:06 AM   #1
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Problem with Mint 19.2 and Windows 10 dual boot on installation


There is a problem with Mint 19.2 and Windows 10 dual boot on installation with the latest Windows 10 August 17th 2019.

On installing when you have Windows 10 when it finds Windows. It no longer gives the option of installing alongside Windows as the first option. Only giving complete install.

Installing on many clients this is always coming up with this latest version.

I am now having to ensure that they first in Windows do a disk management and shrink.

If there was a possibility of when you do the install in Something Else you could shrink the NTFS partition that would be good.

It would be even better if at the install on the first radio button if it said do you want to dual boot then see options.

1. saying quit and in windows shrink the drive with disk management.

2. saying choose Something Else and shrink the larger NTFS partition.

Any ideas especially if you know how to shrink the NTFS in Something Else
 
Old 12-02-2019, 07:31 AM   #2
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Is your post a wish list for the Mint installer? I don't see a question. If these are things you would 'like' to see with their installer, you should probably contact the Mint developers or Canonical/Ubuntu as LQ has no control over this.

At the Ubuntu forums, the moderators and other experts recommend using the manual installation method on UEFI machines which is 'Something Else'.

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On installing when you have Windows 10 when it finds Windows. It no longer gives the option of installing alongside Windows as the first option
In many if not most cases, the reason for this is that windows 10 is left in a hibernated state by default. No Linux system I am aware of will boot a hibernated partition as the risk of loss of data is too great.

Always best to use windows tools on windows, Linux tools on Linux so using Disk Management to shrink the windows partition is preferable. Obviously, reboot windows to test that it still boots, maybe run chkdsk.

You can shrink the windows partition from the Mint USB/DVD because it has the GParted partition editor available. Again, if windows is in the default hibernated state that won't work.

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It would be even better if at the install on the first radio button if it said do you want to dual boot then see options.
I doubt that will ever happen. Most of the 'problems' you refer to are the result of FastBoot and hibernation on windows which Mint and Linux have no control overl
 
Old 12-02-2019, 08:39 AM   #3
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Is your post a wish list for the Mint installer? I don't see a question. If these are things you would 'like' to see with their installer, you should probably contact the Mint developers or Canonical/Ubuntu as LQ has no control over this.

At the Ubuntu forums, the moderators and other experts recommend using the manual installation method on UEFI machines which is 'Something Else'.



In many if not most cases, the reason for this is that windows 10 is left in a hibernated state by default. No Linux system I am aware of will boot a hibernated partition as the risk of loss of data is too great.

Always best to use windows tools on windows, Linux tools on Linux so using Disk Management to shrink the windows partition is preferable. Obviously, reboot windows to test that it still boots, maybe run chkdsk.

You can shrink the windows partition from the Mint USB/DVD because it has the GParted partition editor available. Again, if windows is in the default hibernated state that won't work.



I doubt that will ever happen. Most of the 'problems' you refer to are the result of FastBoot and hibernation on windows which Mint and Linux have no control overl
You have missed the whole point.

It is a new Windows version and the Windows are not hibernated.

The old Windows does allow dual boot without shrinking in disk Management
 
Old 12-02-2019, 06:43 PM   #4
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You have missed the whole point.
I guess so. When I boot Mint 19, the default option which has the radio button checked is that the computer has multiple operating systems and asks what I would like to do, Install Mint Alongside.

It is possible to shrink the windows partition by using gparted which is on the Mint install DVD/USB. It's not that hard to open a terminal and type: sudo gparted. So are you saying this is only a problem with the newer version of windows? I don't thing there is much anyone here will be able to do about that.
 
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is fast boot disabled in windows power settings?
 
Old 12-03-2019, 03:24 AM   #6
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I guess so. When I boot Mint 19, the default option which has the radio button checked is that the computer has multiple operating systems and asks what I would like to do, Install Mint Alongside.

It is possible to shrink the windows partition by using gparted which is on the Mint install DVD/USB. It's not that hard to open a terminal and type: sudo gparted. So are you saying this is only a problem with the newer version of windows? I don't thing there is much anyone here will be able to do about that.
No need to open a terminal Gparted is on the menu on the install desktop and then you can just resize the NTFS partition.

Odd really after you have installed Gparted is no longer on the menu you have to install with the software manager.
 
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is fast boot disabled in windows power settings?
Do not know they usually are all different customers with fresh installation of the latest Windows 10
 
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Odd really after you have installed Gparted is no longer on the menu you have to install with the software manager.
I noticed that is the case on all the Ubuntu derivatives I have used and expect that is because on an install DVD/USB, users are more likely to need to modify partitions. On an installed system, you can't modify any mounted partitions. I see a lot of posts at different forums of new users trying to do exactly that. This might be at least one of the reasons the Ubuntus don't include it on installed systems.
 
  


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