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Old 01-20-2014, 07:32 PM   #1
sulobaidsuevin
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Exclamation Linux Mint 201303 Cinnamon 32bit Update's result in dead/un-bootable system


Hello all, this is my first post ever on a Linux Forum.

The problem:

Linux Mint 201303 Cinnamon 32bit with Kernel Linux 3.2.0-4-486 (i686) installed to a high speed 32GB Sandisk Firebird USB from a class 10 8GB Mini SD card with high speed reader. That actually worked, until i update. It doesn't seem to matter what i use or how i use it to update this system it simply renders it useless and un-bootable each and every time with variable errors and effects. This can include a missing X client, missing log in system files (i.e.: unknown user id error code) and even an entirely gone cinnamon environment. Using "Boot Repair" has no effect on this in fact i think it made it worse. For over a week now, i keep trying to fix this with varying methods but all fail and i am always forced to reinstall again and again.

What i simply need to know is what is the exact update method i should be using for the system to be updated hear specifically? Some kind of idiot proof, step by step guide would be awesome and if it works i'll copy it to my notebook and print it to save for future reference.

The point:
Currently, i am using a separate USB with a custom Debian Kali Linux 1.0 and this started with the above system as a base to build up from with custom scripts but it will not work unless this base system is first updated properly. When i originally made my instructions to reproduce this updating worked and no problems were happening. This is driving me absolutely crazy, thanks in advance.

Update #1:
I have an idea to simply try to find a updated repository list i can add into the system or simply update the main source list before updating. OMG could it be so simple i wonder? I'll definitely share the answer if i find it weather this question is answered or not.

Update #2:
I used the software Manager and installed Mintupdate which has the priority/importance of the necessary updates marked and will only install the ones marked with a #1. This is another part of what i needed to do what i needed to do. In this instance, this:
sudo gedit /etc/pam.d/gdm3
-AND-
gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Have been customized/updated by me and even without the updates seem to be working at the moment without broken packages wear as before there was many broken packages. I also used the tray icon version of the updater to test the sources.list and it found one "Link" was dead so i removed it. Keep in mind i am staying with Synaptic to update since one can only be chosen. The following is my source list:
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free

deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian wheezy main
deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian wheezy main
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

deb http://http.kali.org/kali kali main non-free contrib
deb http://security.kali.org/kali-security kali/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.kali.org/kali kali main non-free contrib
deb-src http://security.kali.org/kali-security kali/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://repo.kali.org/kali kali-bleeding-edge main
#deb-src http://repo.kali.org/kali kali-bleeding-edge main
Please let this issue be unresolved until i mark it as such, it may take a few days to confirm if this worked considering there are 1552 packages, 30-50 software's to install and appx. 30-40 updates to do. If/when i resolve this i'll post the "sudo gedit /etc/pam.d/gdm3" part i use if i had help, otherwise i'll explain how i resolved this and mark it closed. Just so people know i am trying also and not simply a ask and run, thanks

Last edited by sulobaidsuevin; 01-21-2014 at 08:27 PM. Reason: Update
 
Old 02-05-2014, 12:13 AM   #2
Ztcoracat
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Hi:

Welcome to Linux Questions!

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What i simply need to know is what is the exact update method i should be using for the system to be updated hear specifically?
Using your terminal would be the easy way. IMO-

I don't use update managers because every time that I have it hosed my system and I ended up with a black screen at start up-

Open the terminal and execute the following command:
Code:
sudo apt-get update
Upon doing so you will be prompted for your password. When you type in your password it will not show. This is normal so no cause for alarm.
When the update is done you will be back to your name at the prompt and the update will be done so you can close the terminal.

Another good practice is to read the documentation concerning your distribution.
Getting your hands on one of the Linux Bible's would be helpful too.

Read up on Package Management so you can establish installing applications and such that you may want on your system.

http://www.linuxmint.com/
http://www.linuxmint.com/search.php?...ment&x=16&y=13
 
Old 02-05-2014, 06:59 AM   #3
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Ztcoracat,

That's great to cover - thank you.

A few quick things to go over:

"sudo apt-get update" - for me its the same effect as the package manager or updater however by using the software manager to find and install "mint-update" it not only prioritized the updates by necessity but originally had (yet again) the same effect. When i installed the updates one by one i noticed 3 that were the cause after trying each individually then restarting per part. But when i installed them as a group, having only selected the parts marked with a number one it worked.

I am aware of the non-visibility of passwords in the manor you described.
I do have a full PDF copy of all the corresponding documentation as well as an extensive library of eBook's on Linux and the computational sciences, cheat sheets and such.

A large part of the kind of package management process at this stage in developing a unique system from the base system of Linux Mint Debian is experimental at this point.

The specific system configuration i am compiling is highly secure and hardened, it is a combination of systems and computing languages and highly encrypted.

Lastly i avoid Fedora like a plague and won't profess to understand a bit of it, lol. Basically, i haven't forgot to post the solution was finally found and was getting to it but got carried away with my work. - Again, thank you.
 
Old 02-05-2014, 06:35 PM   #4
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Lastly i avoid Fedora like a plague and won't profess to understand a bit of it, lol.
The only way to not be intimidated by a distribution is to run it--LOL!

It's my pleasure to assist you. By the way you speak you sound like you are very well pleased with
your Linux Mint.

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That's great to cover - thank you.
Your Welcome-

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