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Old 05-29-2008, 01:38 PM   #31
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@ Both of you:
1] Welcome to LQ!
2] You really ought to start a new thread for your problems, but at least you have both discovered the [Search] Button on this board
The trouble is that I am now trying to answer two of you at once, my mind is tired, and it is confusing for everyone, having two different questions in the same thread. So, please chewinette (as you came in 2nd, there is no offense intended) start a new thread, with a sensible title of course

@leoleta:
Quote:
Iam new to linux and hope that not a problem.
It's not a problem, we were all new once.

My interpretation of your post:
Quote:
sudo iwlist scanning
[sudo] password for leoleta:
lo Interface doesn't support scanning.

eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning.

wmaster0 Interface doesn't support scanning.

wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
The network was indeed "down"
Quote:
cat /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wireless-key s:123456789987654 (not!)
wireless-essid netgear
auto wlan0
That looks OK to me (And thanks for posting your real key - I can see that there are no strange characters or spaces in it, but if that's your real phone number, please go back to that post and edit it out!)

Are you using WPA or WEP encryption? Your modem/router' setup will tell you what it is using.

Quote:
leoleta@leoleta-laptop:~$ ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:19:b9:7c:b0:74
inet addr:192.168.1.2 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::219:b9ff:fe7c:b074/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:2202 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2207 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:1153542 (1.1 MB) TX bytes:286072 (279.3 KB)
Interrupt:21
This is interesting. Something happened between your post where "Network is down" and here. Here you can see that you have been given a LAN IP address by your modem / router. Your local LAN IP address is 192.168.1.2. This is an entirely acceptable address. What is more is that you have used this eth0 (ie probably ethernet cabled connection) to receive 1153542 B and send 286072 B. So your wired connection is working, and you seem to have used it successfully.

So, your wired connection is working, but your wireless isn't.
You can't have 2 connections at once (if you are going to keep things simple, and I am a simple-minded person). So if you are trying to connect wirelessly, you should disconnect your wired connection first. Then reboot, or just restart networking, if you know how.

If it is still not working we need more details:
I know your distro -"(K)ubuntu "Hardy""
(Most people put this in LQ-> Edit Profile, then it comes up in the sidebar, see mine, at the left?)
But what about your hardware? You say it's an Atheros chip (but which one?), and I know these are a PITA to get working, but it can be done (My eee has Atheros, and works, though I am still not quite sure exactly how!)
lspci is likely to tell us what your wireless chip is, along with a lot of other hardware stuff.
If lspci doesn't list wireless stuff, try lsusb because maybe your wireless is on a USB interface.
lsmod will tell us what kernel modules you have loaded, and we'll be able to see if you have the right one loaded for your hardware.

Once we know your hardware, we can maybe work out what needs to be done to get it working.

Last edited by tredegar; 05-29-2008 at 02:05 PM. Reason: Clicked "Post", when I meant "Preview". Damn!
 
Old 05-29-2008, 09:19 PM   #32
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leoleta@leoleta-laptop:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 10)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:06.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 13)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]
05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
08:01.0 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
08:01.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 01)

leoleta@leoleta-laptop:~$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
nls_iso8859_1 6656 1
nls_cp437 8320 1
vfat 16256 1
fat 60592 1 vfat
ipv6 311720 10
rfcomm 47392 2
l2cap 28800 13 rfcomm
bluetooth 67748 4 rfcomm,l2cap
ppdev 11400 0
powernow_k8 16608 1
cpufreq_stats 8416 0
cpufreq_ondemand 11152 1
freq_table 6464 3 powernow_k8,cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand
cpufreq_conservative 10632 0
cpufreq_powersave 3200 0
cpufreq_userspace 6180 0
sbs 17808 0
sbshc 8960 1 sbs
container 6656 0
dock 12960 0
iptable_filter 4608 0
ip_tables 24104 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 23560 1 ip_tables
af_packet 27272 4
parport_pc 41128 0
lp 14916 0
parport 44300 3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp
rfkill_input 6528 0
joydev 15488 0
arc4 3456 2
ecb 5248 2
blkcipher 9476 1 ecb
snd_hda_intel 440408 3
snd_pcm_oss 47648 0
snd_mixer_oss 20224 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 92168 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
b43 126760 0
usb_storage 82496 1
snd_page_alloc 13200 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep 12552 1 snd_hda_intel
rfkill 10128 10 rfkill_input,b43
dcdbas 11312 0
snd_seq_dummy 5764 0
mac80211 192532 1 b43
libusual 23520 1 usb_storage
snd_seq_oss 38912 0
cfg80211 17680 1 mac80211
evdev 14976 15
snd_seq_midi 10688 0
led_class 7176 1 b43
ide_cd 35488 0
cdrom 41512 1 ide_cd
snd_rawmidi 29856 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 10112 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
input_polldev 6928 1 b43
video 23444 0
output 5632 1 video
psmouse 46236 0
snd_seq 63232 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 27912 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 10644 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
sdhci 21508 0
serio_raw 9092 0
ricoh_mmc 5120 0
snd 70856 17 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_ seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
wmi_acer 11076 0
mmc_core 59272 1 sdhci
battery 16776 0
ac 8328 0
button 10912 0
pcspkr 4992 0
k8temp 7680 0
soundcore 10400 1 snd
i2c_piix4 11148 0
pata_acpi 9856 0
pata_atiixp 10496 0
ata_generic 9988 0
i2c_core 28544 1 i2c_piix4
shpchp 38172 0
pci_hotplug 34608 1 shpchp
ext3 149264 1
jbd 57000 1 ext3
mbcache 11392 1 ext3
sg 41880 0
sd_mod 33280 5
usbhid 35168 0
hid 44992 1 usbhid
b44 33168 0
ahci 33028 2
mii 7552 1 b44
libata 176304 4 pata_acpi,pata_atiixp,ata_generic,ahci
atiixp 6672 0 [permanent]
ide_core 136600 2 ide_cd,atiixp
ehci_hcd 41996 0
scsi_mod 178488 4 usb_storage,sg,sd_mod,libata
ssb 37252 2 b43,b44
ohci_hcd 27524 0
usbcore 169904 6 usb_storage,libusual,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
thermal 19744 0
processor 41448 2 powernow_k8,thermal
fan 6792 0
fbcon 46336 0
tileblit 4096 1 fbcon
font 10112 1 fbcon
bitblit 7424 1 fbcon
softcursor 3712 1 bitblit
fuse 56112 3
leoleta@leoleta-laptop:~$


Network setup as wep

thank you very much for the help

Last edited by leoleta; 05-29-2008 at 09:39 PM.
 
Old 05-30-2008, 01:24 AM   #33
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OK, lspci shows your wireless is BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
I put that into http://www.google.co.uk/linux
And this is the first link: http://hardware4linux.info/component/20872/
There it says your hardware is linux compatible, which is good news, but you'll have to jump through some hoops to get it working:

You need to use either ndiswrapper and the 64-bit windows driver
-or-
the bcm43xx module and the bcm43xx-fwcutter (again with the 64-bit windows driver). The "firmware cutter" cuts some code out of the windows driver which then needs to be uploaded to your wireless chip to make it work.

You do not seem to have any of the above modules loaded, so that's why it is not working.
Additionally, your life is complicated slightly because you are using a 64-bit distro (for which drivers tend to lag a bit behind the 32 bit distros). Note: if you are going to need windows drivers "wrapped up" it is essential that you use the 64-bit windows drivers as you cannot mix 32 with 64. Try searching for AMD64 ndiswrapper and you'll see what I mean.

So, I suggest you get searching using the above terms, find a guide, and follow it.

Let us know how you get on.
 
Old 05-30-2008, 08:08 AM   #34
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thank you tredegar for the help. I enjoyed talking with someone so far away. I have the 32 bit verison so I guess Ill uninstall and put it on. Right now I have to figure out how to get grub to reconize vista. When I uninstalled and reinstall the 62bit verison it was removed from the list, so off I go into the vast internet to see what I can find. Thanks again!!! first ill check some of your post.

Last edited by leoleta; 05-30-2008 at 08:13 AM.
 
Old 05-30-2008, 08:18 AM   #35
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I have the 32 bit verison so I guess Ill uninstall and put it on. Right now I have to figure out how to get grub to reconize vista. When I uninstalled and reinstall the 62bit verison it was removed from the list, so off I go into the vast internet to see what I can find.
Errr, not sure I understand you here.
You don't need windows installed to use the drivers. You just need the "64-bit win" driver file(s) if you are using a 64-bit linux kernel, not the 32-bit win file(s).
Or maybe you are saying you'll install a 32 bit (AKA .686) version of linux? That will run just fine on your AMD64 (but in 32-bit mode).

As for getting grub to recognise windows, you'll need to find which partition windows is on.
Code:
fdisk -l
as root, in linux, will tell you what is where.
Then, there are plenty of guides to setting up grub to make windows load.
Good luck.
 
Old 05-30-2008, 01:22 PM   #36
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ok your saying I can keep the 64bit verison but I need to find a 64bit driver? But I have already uninstall and got vista working again. I did search for the 64bit driver. So I know now why dnwrappper wasnt working for me I was trying to use a 32bit driver. But I wouldnt know a 32bit from a 64 bit if it bit me. I am assuming they will tell you. My computer has vista home basic which is 32bit. I searched dell.com but they dont say it they are 64s or 32s. I know your probably getting a kick out this, remember Ive alway use windows and it does all this for you. Ha ha

I would rather keep the 64bit verison
 
Old 06-28-2008, 03:12 AM   #37
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get wireless working

Quote:
Originally Posted by JMC8501 View Post
Hi,

I've always had problems with wireless on my laptop in the Ubuntu OS. I've recently upgraded to Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon, but wireless is still not working. My wireless card is not the source of the problem. This is the problem:

I've never been able to get Network Manager to work. Neither the applet nor in terminal have ever gotten me results. However, the applet under the name "Network-Monitor" has always been around. This, I believe, is linked to "Network" under System->Administrator->Network. Sometimes this will show wireless networks, other times it will not, but there is no clear way to update which networks it sees, etc... Yet, using this I am able to connect to some wireless network, but only the unprotected kind.

I tried installing other programs, most recently the much hailed "WICD," but this was also a disappointment. The applet also failed to work, and when I tried to connect to a network with WPA security, it absolutely failed to connect.

Please help me as I am new to Linux and am in need of guidance.
this is what i did...after hours of trying 2 figure out...it was so simple
open terminal and type:
sudo modprobe -r iwl3945
press enter (it will probably ask you for ur password...type ur password and press enter)
after that, type:
sudo modprobe iwl3945 disable_hw_scan=1

thats all i did and everythins workin perfectly now....let me know if it worked 4 u
 
Old 10-29-2008, 03:11 PM   #38
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I am trying to follow what has been written. cat /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface wlan0 inet loopback
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
address 169.254.7.237
netmask 255.255.0.0
gateway 127.0.0.1
wireless-key A1BAE2C018
wireless-essid Sodd_off_54
auto wlan0

I noticed the advice above 'to amend interfaces' but am at a loss as to how to do it as I cannot go back to retype it? Something obvious no doubt. In my iconfig eth0, lo, wlan0 all mention ethernet, am I on the wrong tack?

Any advice most welcome as I am trying to swap distros so that I can send in my tax return which has to be done through a recommended software,all msoft, because I need a 'minister' page. all very frustrating.
Cuddy

Last edited by cuddy; 10-30-2008 at 05:13 AM. Reason: Oops wrong thread. I wanted wireless problems. Sorry.
 
Old 10-30-2008, 05:23 AM   #39
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I am trying to follow what has been written. cat /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface wlan0 inet loopback
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
address 169.254.7.237
netmask 255.255.0.0
gateway 127.0.0.1
wireless-key A1BAE2C018
wireless-essid Sodd_off_54
auto wlan0

I have had to swap distros so that I can make my tax return, which must use commercial software because I need a 'minister' page, but my Dell Latitude is a pig with XP and wireless, and sound drivers, so it's swap. Now I cannot get Tenda 514U USB wireless to work with the Dell.

Any help would be most appreciated please. I tried to copy the coding above but could not get cursor to go back up to do it. Something obvious, but it is getting me very frustrated as I am now two months into trying to find a solution to this tax return.

Thanks,
Cuddy.
 
  


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