Windows Vista & dual Boot
Hello guys. I'm thinking of getting a new dell Lap top with Vista on it. I'll be partitioning the drive and installing Windows XP. I hate propriety software. I'm only getting windoze coz i want to look up bill gates skirt and see what color of underwear (maybe even a thong) he's got on. My problem is I've heard that vista takes record of the Master Boot Record(MBR) and if it's tampered with it won't boot. Fine. How do you get the grub in?? I've been using Linux for quit some time now and the grub works more effectively on the MBR than on an external drive or on a partition on the HDD. Can someone pls help me out. If there is anyway i can pass vista and still use the MBR it'll be cool. Thanx and think out of the BOX.
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Go on with GRUB, works great. Where did you hear Vista would not boot without it's own bootloader? |
Hey bouncer if you dont mind me asking, I have a post I put up that is below this one a little bit and im trying to do the same thing but vista/BT2. Can you tell me what you did? Like how should I partition and how to set it up for dual boot? If you wouldnt mind taking a look at my post its called "vista dualboot". Thanks for the help
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I have also triple booted windows vista my own distro of linux and mepis. You just install windows visa then reinstall your boot manager. aka grub lilo. I have to say tho ive only used grub as I find it a better bootloader but I don't know of any issues with lilo.
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Just install as you always have.
It should be noted the new loader with Vista is much more amenable to loading Linux if you feel that way inclined - no more copying the boot sector record across, and fiddling around. Go find easybcd - and it's dead simple. |
Well one thing I had read said to NOT put the lilo/grub in place of the MBR on the vista partition but to do it in the "/" partition of linux. So does it matter one way or the other? Is one way recomended more? I guess the result I am looking for other then everything working and being reversable (if needed in the future) is that when I start my computer I want to be able to select right away if I want to boot linux or vista.
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If you want to use Windows' bootloader (BCD), then you would install LILO or GRUB to your Linux / partition. If you want to use LILO or GRUB, then you would install LILO or GRUB to the MBR of the first hard drive. The stanza required in a LILO or GRUB configuration file for Windows Vista is the same as you would use for XP, 2000, 98, etc. |
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Well actually i do have a disk that is linux based, dont remember what its called but it actually will fix the vista MBR and all that. Its a real slick and worked great when I was doing some other stuff so I could just use that. Well thank you for the help maybe I will get my BT2 installed this weekend now.
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Use Vista's disk management tool to shrink the NTFS partition and create "unallocated freespace" of the size you wish your Linux partition to be. I have installed Fedora Core 6 and Fedora 7 this way on two Sony VAIO laptops.
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Well the only issue there is that HP doesnt ship their laptops with disks anymore. But I have been told I can call them and order them to give me one and they will, so I will do that one of these days.
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No Dual Boot And Mbr Headaches !
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Uhm....:confused: :tisk: :D I've dual booted various distroS with vista putting grub in mbr and everything went ok,it always dualbooted..so i suggest to put grub in mbr,it'S the easiest and more immediate way during installation..ONLY DON'T DUAL BOOT VISTA AND MEPIS 6 OR 6.02 'COS IT CAN'T RECOGNIZE VISTA AND WON'T LET YOU BOOT ! I EXPERIENCED THIS PROBLEM WITH MEPIS ! For the rest:i actually dual boot vista and sabayon 3.26 without problems and with wireless support and with grub in mbr,i also dualbooted with vista without problems and with wireless support these distros:1) mint kde 2.2 2) Mandriva 2007 spring 3)knoppix 5.11 4) open suse 10.2 so i suggest you to use sabayon Try take a look here: http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_b...nstalled_first Good luck ! |
Awesome I have my partition made the way that site shows, so when I goto school today I will take out my beloved BT2 cd and give it a shot. thanks for the help
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Well I gave it a shot. Pretty much everything went just fine. But the one issue Im having is that when I start my computer BT2 would automaticly boot up rather then grub or something coming up. I booted up to the live CD and used the installer, did I miss something? I had to use Super Grub to fix the MBR so now linux is installed but of course wont boot. Did I not install grub or something though? what did I miss?
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? sorry for my ignorance but...BT2 what means?what stands for ? i have to know before answering |
and which distro have you used?sabayon or another one ?:study:
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BT2 = BackTrack 2.0
http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html It is a live-CD distro based upon Slackware which comes with a bunch of "penetration testing" software tools. |
Ciao
Ah..you're right...i knew it but didn't understand it was BT2..i tried bt2 in my notebook before other distros to crack a net but it didn't work well with my hardware so didn't install it..in every distro i use to install aircrack,airsnort,dsniff and so on...so it' the same.. anyway for making things easier i suggest to use bt2 as live cd withour installing it or use any distro with aircrack,airsnort,dsniff and so on...so it' the same.. Ciao ! |
I've heard of a distro called ENGARDE but don't know,think should be something similar TO IPCOP -to protect a net and not to crack it..-anyone knows anything about it ?
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My Personal Suggestion For A Vista/linux Easy And Secure Dual Boot
:) :study: ciao !
after reading this post i gave a more carefull look at my vista/linux dual boot.. i'm still keeping grub on mbr as my defauly bldr..installed from vista easy bcd AND vistabootpro to give them a look..they can't load linux by themselves,i'm still keeping grub on mbr as my defauly bldr..but they during boot let you eventually choose to access IN A SECOND the repair options by pressing only one time F8 instead of start hitting many,many times F8 in case of need just as you turn on pc until you can access these options ..:study: SO MY SUGGESTION IS TO KEEP GRUB AS DEFAULT BOOT LOADER ON MBR AND THEN INSTALL EASY BCD-it's much better than vistabootpro which is thought essentially to let you boot between xp and vista- AND USE BCD WITHOUT OVERWRITING GRUB ! ONLY FOR HAVING A FASTER AND EASIER ACCESS TO VISTA BOOT AND REPAIR OPTIONS.. :Pengy: SEE YA !:D :) |
, hey i got a laptop recently, with vista on it(acer laptop)...
installed ubuntu BB5.10, but was anoyed that i couldnt make it all work and i wasnt able get a copy of a later version and no net connection to use...so i got latest distro at newsagency, xandros4, works good with laptop, and uses lilo...pity vista annoyed me too much, now laptop is a linux machine only, but vista booted fine and worked ok, just i have this phobia about windoze and cant handle sleeping between app's...plus vista is ummm, i am too much of a lady to say what i think... the bootloaders never gave me any probs, yet i read about all these problems ppl keep having with vista, my prob was the time it took to do things, i could have a decent sleep between app changes... |
I just remembered that BT2 uses lilo and not GRUB. I dont know if this will change things or not but if it doesnt then this is what I need to do?
1) boot into BT2 live CD (startx) 2) Start the GUI installer 3) Put bldr on MBR 4) Even though linux will be the only OS that will boot and lilo wont come up, use easy-BCD to correct this. 5) After you have easy-BCD set up, restart, and eveything should work. Now I have never used easy-bcd but do I have the steps right in all of this as far as what I need to do to get everything working and the dual boot? Thank you all for your help in this |
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