Which to install 32 bit vs 64 bit Linux
I bought a Compaq 8710w mobile workstation laptop.
Includes a Intel Core 2 Dual Processor T7800 (2.6 ghz, 800 mhz, 4-mb L2 cache) 4 gig ram 250 hard drive I'm trying to decide between installing a 32-bit or 64-bit version of Linux. Preferably CentOS, I've read some of the other forums on this topic, but they never seem to give any real answers. Is there anyone out there using a 64-bit version of Linux day to day on a laptop? What are some of the issues you come across (Besides Firefox)? Any issues with drivers for wireless? Any problems with the various 32-bit applications? Finance Backup I do plan to install VMWare and run other guest OS's such as Fedora 8 and, Windows XP (sadly)). Also any chance on having a forum devoted to discussions of 64 installs. Thanks G- |
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$ cat /etc/*release Red Hat Enterprise Linux Client release 5.1 (Tikanga) $ uname -a Linux Aspire5100 2.6.23.12 #1 Sat Dec 22 10:37:38 EST 2007 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 76 model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36 Selected output from dmidecode; Code:
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Back when I had my 64bit lappy I tried 64bit Linux had issues like you have with all Linux on a newer laptop. ( it probably did not help I also had a laptop that was fully ATI ) There was some quirks tho. One was time on my OS would never stay the same always going too fast. This is an older issue tho and last time I checked they had worked out fixes for it. All in all tho everything worked alot better then some of the horror stories I have heard from 64bit windows users.
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You have an x86_64 machine. Why choose? Why not use the hardware the way the engineers intended it to be used? Go multilib. Run 32-bit applications for the few that need it and 64-bit for everything else. You'll find that only a very few apps really need to be 32-bit. I run everything 64-bit except mplayer, Firefox, JRE, and Wine (because there are so few 64-bit Windows apps) and have for two years with no problems.
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Thanks everyone for the input. It was really helpful.
I have RHEL 5.1 installed. I also installed Vmware Workstation 6. I was surprised it installed without any issues. Installed Windows XP Pro and Fedora 8. I thinking if setting up a separate virtual machine for guest CentOS with a local NAT network setup with developer tools I can install and run against a DB installed on the host. I removed the 64 bit firefox 1.0.5 and installed Firefox 2.0.11 with adobe reader, flash and java. I'm working to get mplayer and the mplayer browser plug-in installed. I can't figure out what it with Red Hat on holding on to firefox 1.5. They should have been ditched 1.X long before Fedora 6 and RHEL5. I have to agree with Weibullguy on the lack of 64 bit apps. It's really mind numbing. Any tips on where I can get the mplayer rpms? I try to avoid compiling from source as much as possible and stick with rpms or ready made binaries that you just unzip and run. G- |
Dag Wieers's site: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/
Since you have RHEL5 installed follow the advice here: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B When ready type something like: yum install mplayer.i386 mplayerplug-in.i386 If the browser is 64-bit then you will also need the nspluginwrapper rpm packages from here; http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/proje...pluginwrapper/ |
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If you are unsure, it's 32-bit you're after. Hop on to 64-bit only if you have a real reason for it. For now it's nothing ground-breaking really, so better stick to the "old, working" way until there is some _real_ general use for 64-bit operating systems. Like having every single piece of software take advantage of it.
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I have two systems, 32-bit Slackware and 64-bit Arch on the same laptop, which happens to be all ATI. :) Arch is not multilib, it's a pure 64-bit distro. I'm typing this from Arch.
There's almost no difference in performance between 32 and 64 bit. There's also almost no difference in the availability of applications, easiness of configuration or anything else that comes to mind. Since you can always compile from source, unlike in Windows world, applcations, whose source is available for 32-bit, are immediately available in 64-bit. I even didn't install nspluginwrapper, I use the gnash player for Konqueror to watch youtube videos. The only thing I notice is that ATI graphics drivers are slightly less stable under 64 bit. Everything else is virtually the same. |
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Do I see 4GB RAM? Then it's definitely 64 bit unless you want to start messing with PAE. 32 bit can access about 3GB at best. I would recommend Fedora 8 over CentOS since it comes with its own version of nspluginwrapper in its repositories, which makes things more straightforward if you want to use 64 bit firefox (I do without any issues). It is also one of the first to use Pulseaudio by default.
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I'm trying to locate another third party repository for RHEL 5 where they at least maintain a one to one between the 32-bit and 64-bit apps in their repositories. For example, one of the apps I want to use is called basket. A application for managing notes. I couldn't find this in any of the 64 bit repositories. G- |
To me 64bit is not really necessary yet. Stick w/ 32bit, i use 64bit on my laptop and its hard finding 64bit apps.
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