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Old 10-12-2010, 03:42 PM   #1
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Unhappy understand that mac address is the same as bssid, but config. wireless asks for both?


when i try to configure my wireless on my laptop, it asks for a mac address, and a bssid. should i put in the same numbers? it also ask,s for a clone mac address, i dont know what that is. could someone let me know? thank you for your time.
 
Old 10-12-2010, 05:06 PM   #2
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You really shouldn't need any mac addresses to configure your wireless. Can you fill us in on some details about what distro you're using and how you're trying to configure your wireless card?
 
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:11 PM   #3
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Red face i dont know what a distro is, i loaded ubuntu 10.10 netbook final

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You really shouldn't need any mac addresses to configure your wireless. Can you fill us in on some details about what distro you're using and how you're trying to configure your wireless card?
thank you! my wireless shows the 2wire im supposed to connect to wirelessly but when i try, it keeps asking me for my wep key. i put it in and a minute later it asks again this keeps going till i cancel it. so i was trying to manually configure it and it asked for that info. my wireless modem dosent have dhcp (i think thats what it,s called) it has pppoe connections. under wireless settings in the os, it dosent have a option for pppoe. so im stuck! and i need the wireless for school. im not sure what you mean by distro, but i have ubuntu 10.10 netbook i386 final. any help would be deeply appreciated.
 
Old 10-12-2010, 08:02 PM   #4
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oopps,wrong place to quote

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Old 10-13-2010, 07:36 AM   #5
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Question distro, i think thats ubuntu 10.10. netbook i386 final, wount go wireless

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You really shouldn't need any mac addresses to configure your wireless. Can you fill us in on some details about what distro you're using and how you're trying to configure your wireless card?
thank you! my laptop shows where to connect to wireless, but it ask,s for a wep. i put it in and a min. later it asks again. this go,s on till i cancel it. my wireless modem dosent support dchc(i think thats what it,s called) just pppoe, do you know what to do? any help would be appreciated!
i have ubuntu 10.10 netbook i386 final. thank you!
 
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[QUOTE]my wireless shows the 2wire im supposed to connect to wirelessly but when i try, it keeps asking me for my wep key[/QUOTE

You're using a horribly insecure encryption method. You really shouldn't be using WEP if you are concerned about security. While it isn't likely that this is a driver problem, it would be helpful to know what wireless hardware you've got. If you can open a console and run lspci, there should be an entry labeled "Network Controller" and that will hopefully have the wireless card info, particularly the chipset.


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but i have ubuntu 10.10 netbook i386 final. any help would be deeply appreciated.
Yes, Ubuntu is a linux distro (like Debian, Slackware, Fedora, etc.....) so that helps.

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,ve got all my modem settings saved in documents but there odt, so i cant upload them. i thought they would help. if anyone knows how to convert them to a format i can upload, let me know. thank,s
I don't think we need your modem settings at this point, so don't worry about it.

Are you using network manager to try and configure the wireless card or are you using something else?

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my wireless modem dosent have dhcp (i think thats what it,s called) it has pppoe connections.
Are you sure you're looking at your wireless connection here? PPPOE doesn't make sense for wireless connection.
 
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:37 AM   #7
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here is everything i,ve got attached. thank you.
Attached Files
File Type: txt results on etho 1.txt (5.5 KB, 10 views)
 
Old 10-13-2010, 12:11 PM   #8
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A few things:

- The lshw output is useless since you didn't drill down to the wireless card. All that is showing is the top level hardware controllers

-lspci isn't helping. What it is showing is this:

Code:
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 83)
which I believe is your wired connection.

Your wireless scan:

Code:
rokalotjeff@rokalotjeff-lap:~$ sudo iwlist eth1 scan

eth1      Scan completed :

          Cell 01 - Address: 34:EF:44:A4:1E:81

                    Channel:6

                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)

                    Quality=38/70  Signal level=-72 dBm  

                    Encryption key:on

                    ESSID:" "

                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s

                    Mode:Master

                    Extra:tsf=00000015c57ea975

                    Extra: Last beacon: 172ms ago

                    IE: Unknown: 000120

                    IE: Unknown: 010482848B96

                    IE: Unknown: 030106

                    IE: Unknown: 0706555320010B1B

                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
If this is your access point, the ESSID is blank, and really shouldn't be. Are you hiding the ESSID on the access point or have you never entered it? Either way, having an ESSID is going to be pretty useful. If you look at the iwconfig eth1 output, I suspect that your card isn't associated with the access point. That would explain the failure of the dhclient eth1 command.

So lets start from the beginning here. what is the ESSID of your access point, and what does the output of iwconfig eth1 look like? By the way, you can just post the output in your post, no need to make an attachment. Just copy/paste what you want to post and then surround it with the CODE or QUOTE tags.
 
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:03 PM   #9
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rokalotjeff@rokalotjeff-lap:~$ iwconfig eth1
eth1 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:""
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457 GHz Access Point: None
Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Sensitivity:1/0
Retry limit:8 RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thrff
Power Managementff
Link Quality=0/70 Signal level=-122 dBm Noise level=-122 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:1
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0


my isp dosent know what a essid is, they say they know nothing about linux.i put in my mac add. there and lost the option to connect wireless.and now i have another problem, i booted up my laptop and everything is running super slow. i dont know, maybe i should blanking out my hdd and reinstal. i installed over windows without nuke and booting my hdd. i have to go to school now, i,ll be back at 930 thank you so much for your time. i,ll check back latter.

Last edited by rokalotjeff; 10-13-2010 at 04:05 PM. Reason: forgot to wrap
 
Old 10-13-2010, 04:21 PM   #10
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my isp dosent know what a essid is
Your ISP shouldn't know what an ESSID is. The ESSID is the name given to a wireless access point or wireless router. You'll also see SID or SSID thrown around, they mean exactly the same thing. When you do a scan for wireless access points, the names for each of them will show up in the ESSID line of the output. And speaking of output, that iwconfig output you posted looks odd. Are you anywhere near the access point? It looks like you have no real signal at all.

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i put in my mac add. there and lost the option to connect wireless
What MAC address are you talking about? The one for the wireless card or the one for the access point? And where did you put it? And how did you put it in? Since none of us can see what you're doing, you have to give us details about what you've done.

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and now i have another problem, i booted up my laptop and everything is running super slow. i dont know, maybe i should blanking out my hdd and reinstal. i installed over windows without nuke and booting my hdd.
If you did a full, standard install, that shouldn't be an issue. There really isn't a way for the old Windows install to mess with the new Linux install. Now that said, if you didn't do a full, standard install, or if the slowness isn't going away, a re-install might not be a bad idea.
 
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:00 PM   #11
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Arrow my essid

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Your ISP shouldn't know what an ESSID is. The ESSID is the name given to a wireless access point or wireless router. You'll also see SID or SSID thrown around, they mean exactly the same thing. When you do a scan for wireless access points, the names for each of them will show up in the ESSID line of the output. And speaking of output, that iwconfig output you posted looks odd. Are you anywhere near the access point? It looks like you have no real signal at all.



What MAC address are you talking about? The one for the wireless card or the one for the access point? And where did you put it? And how did you put it in? Since none of us can see what you're doing, you have to give us details about what you've done.



If you did a full, standard install, that shouldn't be an issue. There really isn't a way for the old Windows install to mess with the new Linux install. Now that said, if you didn't do a full, standard install, or if the slowness isn't going away, a re-install might not be a bad idea.
my essid is 2wire115, i put the mac add from my wireless card, it,s the bssid that my isp dident know, they said it was the same as my essid, which is wrong, because it has to be entered in number form. im going to wipe my hard drive and reinstall, i,ll keep you updated. thank you for helping me, im new at this, my desktop has 10.04 and it runs great. i,ve tryed 9.10, 10.04, 10.04.1, on my laptop and none of them worked wirelessly. i loaded windows, just to check, and got right on the internet. but windows is way to slow, i,de realy like ubuntu to work. i,ll let you know.
 
Old 10-13-2010, 11:50 PM   #12
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my essid is 2wire115, i put the mac add from my wireless card, it,s the bssid that my isp dident know, they said it was the same as my essid, which is wrong, because it has to be entered in number form. im going to wipe my hard drive and reinstall, i,ll keep you updated. thank you for helping me, im new at this, my desktop has 10.04 and it runs great. i,ve tryed 9.10, 10.04, 10.04.1, on my laptop and none of them worked wirelessly. i loaded windows, just to check, and got right on the internet. but windows is way to slow, i,de realy like ubuntu to work. i,ll let you know.
well,right off the bat, with a clean hdd, it loaded ubuntu, screen went blank, then it said process:236 glib warning** getpwuid_r) failed due to unknown user id (0). i looked for a wireless conection and there was none, this is when i chose try without installing. at this point i shut down to wait to see what you have to say about it, please help! it said process:236 glib warning** getpwuid_r) failed due to unknown user id (0)

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Old 10-14-2010, 01:43 AM   #13
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Unhappy tryed 10.10, couldent get wireless

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Your ISP shouldn't know what an ESSID is. The ESSID is the name given to a wireless access point or wireless router. You'll also see SID or SSID thrown around, they mean exactly the same thing. When you do a scan for wireless access points, the names for each of them will show up in the ESSID line of the output. And speaking of output, that iwconfig output you posted looks odd. Are you anywhere near the access point? It looks like you have no real signal at all.



What MAC address are you talking about? The one for the wireless card or the one for the access point? And where did you put it? And how did you put it in? Since none of us can see what you're doing, you have to give us details about what you've done.



If you did a full, standard install, that shouldn't be an issue. There really isn't a way for the old Windows install to mess with the new Linux install. Now that said, if you didn't do a full, standard install, or if the slowness isn't going away, a re-install might not be a bad idea.
i havent installed yet, but i tryed it and couldent get on the internet. i made other quotes, there down below, i messed that up. heres the eth1 scan results
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo iwlist eth1 scan
eth1 Scan completed :
Cell 01 - Address: 34:EF:44:A4:1E:81
Channel:6
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality=70/70 Signal level=-36 dBm
Encryption keyn
ESSID:"2WIRE115"
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s
Mode:Master
Extra:tsf=00000002ddfc697b
Extra: Last beacon: 200ms ago
IE: Unknown: 00083257495245313135
IE: Unknown: 010482848B96
IE: Unknown: 030106
IE: Unknown: 0706555320010B1B
IE: Unknown: 2A0100
i dont know what to do next, please let me know if you have any idea,s thank you. error report on other quote below.
 
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i dont know what to do next, please let me know if you have any idea,s
Well, at least your ESSID has a name. Based on your earlier post, I'm going to assume that WEP encryption is on. So try this (as root)

Code:
iwconfig eth1 essid 2WIRE115
iwconfig eth1 key YourWEPKeyHere
If you look at the iwconfig eth1 output at this point, you should see that the ESSID field now has the 2WIRE115 value and you should see that your device is associated with the access point. If that is true, then request an IP address:

Code:
ifup eth1
That should get you an IP address from the router and you should be good to go.

By the way, you should be able to enter the ESSID and WEP key into the NetworkManager GUI and have it work.
 
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:12 AM   #15
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output of first comand

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Well, at least your ESSID has a name. Based on your earlier post, I'm going to assume that WEP encryption is on. So try this (as root)

Code:
iwconfig eth1 essid 2WIRE115
iwconfig eth1 key YourWEPKeyHere
If you look at the iwconfig eth1 output at this point, you should see that the ESSID field now has the 2WIRE115 value and you should see that your device is associated with the access point. If that is true, then request an IP address:

Code:
ifup eth1
That should get you an IP address from the router and you should be good to go.

By the way, you should be able to enter the ESSID and WEP key into the NetworkManager GUI and have it work.
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To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
See "man sudo_root" for details.

rokalotjeff@rokalotjeff-lap:~$ iwconfig eth1 essid 2WIRE115
Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not permitted.
rokalotjeff@rokalotjeff-lap:~$ sudu iwconfig eth1 2wire115
No command 'sudu' found, did you mean:
Command 'sudo' from package 'sudo' (main)
Command 'sudo' from package 'sudo-ldap' (universe)
Command 'tudu' from package 'tudu' (universe)
sudu: command not found
rokalotjeff@rokalotjeff-lap:~$
i also do not know where to find network manager gui
do you know what to do now. thank yoy so much for your time.
 
  


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