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Old 10-27-2013, 06:51 AM   #1
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Sound - OK but distorted on headphones but no sound from speakers


Howdy...

Mint 14 Nadia
Inspiron 9400

Sorry for posting so much lately, but I'm trying to get this old notebook running smoothly as a Linux-only system, and am traveling with it so would like to get the bugs worked out. I've dabbled in Linux for years - since I think when Mandriva used to be called Mandrake (if I recall correctly), but haven't been consistent enough to have gotten very experienced.

Sound was working on both speakers and headphones, and though I've requested help other times on sound issues, no sound from speakers is a new problem. The distortion problem never did get solved, but it is less of a problem now, and tolerable, though not good.

Without headphones connected, I get no sound from the speakers, even if I make sure the speakers are selected. I feel sure that in all of my fumbling around getting things to work that I must have changed something, and hopefully the fix is a simple switch or reinstall of something other than a full blown reinstall.

Any suggestions on diagnosing and fixing?

Thanks!
Optiker
 
Old 10-28-2013, 05:40 PM   #2
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Hi

I don't use mint but lets start the investigation

Pls post the outputs for these
Code:
lsmod | grep snd
aplay -l
aplay -L
lspci -v (just the section for your audio device)
cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 | grep Codec
2) I am not sure how to tell if pulsaudio (=PA) is running on mint but some dirty ways are
run as non-root
alsamixer
if the image shows only one slider called PA its running while if you see heaps its not

b) do you have a home folder .pulse? (hint thats DOT pulse and you may need to show hidden files in your file manager or run
Code:
ls .pulse
as non root in your home foler
do you have a /etc/pulse?

3) What is the main way you listen to sound
eg you need hdmi output at home
but when travelling you use the internal speakers
or you use an usb mixer at home and use internal mobile?

4) ok in the meantime I took a hint and looked at some of your other posts
t looks like some very good advice given but umm you may have been scared to try it?

therefore, we will combine some elements from your other posts

DETAILS

We need details

It looks like you are not using a hdmi lead but is the lead into your dell using a 3.5 mm jack into the headphone hole (or the mic hole with surround sound)
or does this Dell have a SPDIF hole, often hidden by a small black plug you remove and then insert a optical cable
-----the ends at the TV are irrelevant

5) post the contents of these command pls
Code:
ls /etc/modprobe.d/
cat  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf

Last edited by aus9; 10-28-2013 at 06:00 PM.
 
Old 10-28-2013, 06:06 PM   #3
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Leaping ahead so you are not in shock when see your results, I would say that 99% of your past posts will disappear
once you agree to setup the model=string config.

Its not your fault that intel have only the one hardware module snd_hda_intel plus a number of codec modules
but
intel being so numerous offers lots of options.

A huge advantage of this occurs in my intel sytem not a dell.

debian configures it without PA as a 2 ch basic model sound device (onboard)
as soon as I reboot with a model=string (my string is irrelevant to you)
my alsamixer then shows the correct number of sliders and mic settings as I have a tower and have back and front mic/outs etc etc

so to prepare your mind for good sounds we have a link
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documenta...dio-Models.txt

and as we know you have a 9400 we get
Quote:
STAC9200
========
ref Reference board
oqo OQO Model 2
dell-d21 Dell (unknown)
dell-d22 Dell (unknown)
dell-d23 Dell (unknown)
dell-m21 Dell Inspiron 630m, Dell Inspiron 640m
dell-m22 Dell Latitude D620, Dell Latitude D820
dell-m23 Dell XPS M1710, Dell Precision M90
dell-m24 Dell Latitude 120L
dell-m25 Dell Inspiron E1505n
dell-m26 Dell Inspiron 1501
dell-m27 Dell Inspiron E1705/9400
gateway-m4 Gateway laptops with EAPD control
gateway-m4-2 Gateway laptops with EAPD control
panasonic Panasonic CF-74
auto BIOS setup (default)
so we seduce you into using model=string which will be model=dell-m27

and pretending you have a debian structure we will edit your alsa-base.conf so it appends
options snd_hda_intel model=dell-m27

edit needs root powers and we keep it simple and just do a full reboot

Last edited by aus9; 10-28-2013 at 06:12 PM.
 
Old 10-28-2013, 08:37 PM   #4
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aus9...as requested...
Looks like a huge investment of time on your part! Thank you so much!
Optiker

Quote:
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Pls post the outputs for these
Code:
lsmod | grep snd
lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_codec_idt 59761 1
snd_hda_intel 32515 3
snd_hda_codec 111547 2 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 13272 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 80163 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq_midi 13132 0
snd_rawmidi 25382 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 14475 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 51255 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 24411 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 14137 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd 61991 15 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_se q_device
soundcore 14599 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 14036 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

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aplay -l
[/code]
aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
Quote:
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aplay -L
[/code]
aplay -L
default
Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
sysdefault:CARD=Intel
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Digital
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
dmix:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=Intel,DEV=1
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Digital
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=Intel,DEV=1
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Digital
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=Intel,DEV=1
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Digital
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=Intel,DEV=1
HDA Intel, STAC92xx Digital
Hardware device with all software conversions

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lspci -v (just the section for your audio device)
[/code]
lspci -v
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
Subsystem: Dell Device 01cd
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44
Memory at efffc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

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cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 | grep Codec
[/code]
cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 | grep Codec
Codec: SigmaTel STAC9200

Format screwed up, but guess you can see it's multiple sliders.
┌──────────────────────────────────────────────── AlsaMixer v1.0.25 ────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ Card: HDA Intel F1: Help │
│ Chip: SigmaTel STAC9200 F2: System information │
│ View: F3:[Playback] F4: Capture F5: All F6: Select sound card │
│ Item: Master [dB gain: -18.00] Esc: Exit │
│ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ │
│ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │
│ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │
│ ├──┤ ├──┤ ├──┤ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ │
│ │MM│ │MM│ │MM│ │OO│ │OO│ │
│ └──┘ └──┘ └──┘ └──┘ └──┘ │
│ 50 100<>100 100 │
│ < Master > PCM LFE S/PDIF S/PDIF Default PCM │
└─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ────────────────┘

Quote:
Originally Posted by aus9 View Post
ls .pulse
[/code]
ls .pulse
2181079223ea3bea010c42915110107e-card-database.tdb 2181079223ea3bea010c42915110107e-device-volumes.tdb
2181079223ea3bea010c42915110107e-default-sink 2181079223ea3bea010c42915110107e-runtime
2181079223ea3bea010c42915110107e-default-source 2181079223ea3bea010c42915110107e-stream-volumes.tdb
2181079223ea3bea010c42915110107e-device-manager.tdb

Quote:
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as non root in your home foler
do you have a /etc/pulse?
[/code]
There is no /etc/ folder in my Home folder. I get the feeling this not good?

Quote:
Originally Posted by aus9 View Post
3) What is the main way you listen to sound
eg you need hdmi output at home
but when travelling you use the internal speakers
or you use an usb mixer at home and use internal mobile?
[/code]
Travel is infrequent, but use mostly USB headset, but also at times, speakers. At home, use a little of everything, but would like output to my flat panel TV, but don't have an HDMI out on this old computer. Under Windows, I have used one of the other graphics outputs that needed separate audio, for which I used a separate cable plugged into the analog headset jack, but distortion is bad. Hope that answers your question.

Quote:
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4) ok in the meantime I took a hint and looked at some of your other posts
t looks like some very good advice given but umm you may have been scared to try it?
[/code]
Probably true...thanks for taking time to dig. For my level of expertise, I'm on the hairy edge.

Quote:
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It looks like you are not using a hdmi lead but is the lead into your dell using a 3.5 mm jack into the headphone hole (or the mic hole with surround sound)
or does this Dell have a SPDIF hole, often hidden by a small black plug you remove and then insert a optical cable
[/code]
Right...no HDMI, though I'd prefer it. As stated above, I am using the 3.5 mm headphone jack in combination with a rear connector that has 3 rows of 10 pins plus a short horizontal blade at one end of the set of pins - don't know what it's called, but SPDIF sounds familiar. However, if it has a small black hole covered by a plug, I never discovered it.

Quote:
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ls /etc/modprobe.d/
[/code]
ls /etc/modprobe.d/
alsa-base.conf blacklist-firewire.conf blacklist-oss.conf dkms.conf
blacklist-ath_pci.conf blacklist-framebuffer.conf blacklist-rare-network.conf iwlwifi.conf
blacklist.conf blacklist-modem.conf blacklist-watchdog.conf vmwgfx-fbdev.conf

Quote:
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cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[/code]
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
# autoloader aliases
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0
install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7

# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; }
#
# Workaround at bug #499695 (reverted in Ubuntu see LP #319505)
install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-pcm-oss ; : ; }
install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-mixer-oss ; : ; }
install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-midi ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-oss ; : ; }
#
install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-midi ; : ; }
# Cause optional modules to be loaded above sound card driver modules
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-emu10k1-synth ; }
install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; }

# Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by it anyway)
install saa7134 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install saa7134 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist saa7134-alsa ; : ; }
# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
options bt87x index=-2
options cx88_alsa index=-2
options saa7134-alsa index=-2
options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
options snd-usb-audio index=-2
options snd-usb-caiaq index=-2
options snd-usb-ua101 index=-2
options snd-usb-us122l index=-2
options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2
# Ubuntu #62691, enable MPU for snd-cmipci
options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
# Keep snd-pcsp from being loaded as first soundcard
options snd-pcsp index=-2
# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-usb-audio index=-2

============End of Requested Output==========
 
Old 10-28-2013, 08:44 PM   #5
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Quote:
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so we seduce you into using model=string which will be model=dell-m27

and pretending you have a debian structure we will edit your alsa-base.conf so it appends
options snd_hda_intel model=dell-m27

edit needs root powers and we keep it simple and just do a full reboot
aus9...looks like the bottom line is to just edit alsa-base.conf, is that right?

So, the question is, where do I find it?

Should I wait till you see my reply to your previous post, with all of the output you requested, of just do it - after you tell me where to find it?

Thanks!
Optiker
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:03 AM   #6
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ok well we can conclude that pulseaudio is not controlling your sound device by the alsamixer showing many mixer levels

PA is very useful if you need to swap live (=no reboot)(=on-the-fly) between various sound devices
but it can be a bitch with so many gui graphical controls
eg it has about 6 ways you can mute sound!

2)
Quote:
There is no /etc/ folder in my Home folder
Nope I mean literally use your file manager to go to / then to etc and is there a folder for pulse? or
Code:
ls /etc/pulse
Anyhows I am confident we do not have PA interference so lets move on

3) command to append new options now moved to lower post reply 11
then full reboot

Now for something different

I need you to take a snap shot of your alsamixer command run like this
Code:
alsamixer -V all
(that capital V for victor)

I use mtpaint which is really easy to use to grab a screen shot
then upload it to a file hosting site, if you don't have one I suggest tinypic.com
otherwise you have to use mtpaint to resize to get in within LQ attachment rules

then show a link to that image pls

4) a crash course on alsamixer commands
large volume changes use pageup or down
arrow up or down for smaller

mute OR unmute output with the m key (easy to remember mute is sound out)

space bar to de-activate or activate input devices = mic

You probably find you need to play with these sliders but it also depends on whether your sound device has certain features
---not your problem but you need to be aware some sound devices are crap
------I am thinking does it have the ability to "auto-sense" headphone jack

My tower allows me to change my mic at front to mic in OR line in OR sound in
this setting or similar may be available to you and you use the up or down arrows to
cycle thru the settings

5) OOPs I forgot to consider that your plug hole sounds like a DIN socket as per
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_connector

but pls state this is your computer socket as I don't care whats on your tv side

OK I do care, adapters can be poorly wired but we are trying to confirm exactly what you are using to get sound "OUT" to TV

Last edited by aus9; 10-29-2013 at 06:34 PM. Reason: change out to in and spell
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:15 AM   #7
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Next its really important you understand these 2 images

http://oi40.tinypic.com/sopms0.jpg

as soon as you see yellow writing, use the up or down arrows to change the setting if you need to

B) to get to the setting you use the right arrow or the left ---easy eh?

http://oi43.tinypic.com/33wnujc.jpg

above image shows I have 2 mic controls one for the front and one for the back but they cycle using the up or down arrows
front mic----back mic----line

where line means line input such as a 3.55 mm jack from your mp3 player

enjoy
 
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Now sorry for separate post

assuming you have a DIN socket, you need to test and look at the alsamixer levels with DIN jack in to go to TV
and test no sound to speakers-----I regard this as normal

pull out DIN jack ----relook at mixer levels and you should get sound out of speakers
----I expect this----but can't promise it
 
Old 10-29-2013, 10:56 AM   #9
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Howdy aus9...can we take this a step at a time to make sure I don't screw it up? I'll assume that's OK with you, so the following is my reply with questions up to the full reboot. If after reading this you can tell me I'm understanding and doing what needs to be done, or correcting my understanding, then I can make the changes and do the full reboot.

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Nope I mean literally use your file manager to go to / then to etc and is there a folder for pulse? or
Code:
ls /etc/pulse
Yes, pulse folder contains four files: clinet.conf, daemon.conf, default.pa and system.pa

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3) to save you any angst here is the bottom line, now that you agree to do it

Code:
sudo echo "
options snd_hda_intel model=dell-m27
" >>  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
This commands adds a new line before adding our model=string line, adds one more line and you copy and paste pls

Pls check it worked with that earlier cat command or use your root powered text editor to add the line or a file manager powered by root
---so many choices I was attempted to offer only one.

then full reboot
You lost me on this. Sorry! I just need to be sure of what I do. I understand that sudo will put me into superuser mode. echo must be a command to copy what's between the quotation marks into what follows the >>, is that right? What part of that last names the file that is being changed - is it the alsa-base.conf file??

Next question...I understand that what's between the two square brackets is done in a console. Your sentence "This command adds...", is that just telling me what the [code]...[code] is doing, or is that an additional step? If just explanation, then is what you say about a root powered text editor an alternative to using the console commands above? If so, is the file I would I be editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf? If so, where in the file do I insert it, and what all doI insert, just options snd_hda_intel model=dell-m27?

I think that if you can confirm my understanding, and I can work with a text editor in root mode, I can manage that much, then full reboot and address the next section of your instructions.

I really appreciate this. In addition to hopefully solving the sound issues, I'm learning a lot.

Thanks!
Optiker

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Old 10-29-2013, 11:03 AM   #10
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aus9...is the DIN socket the one with 3 rows of 10 pins and a horizontal blade at one end (also the insert is ceramic, not plastic)? If so, that's the one I use to connect to my flat panel TV. If so, I don't have a cable with me while traveling, but will when I get home in a little over a week. Assuming I get through your previous instructions, I'll check this when I get home.

Thanks!
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Now sorry for separate post

assuming you have a DIN socket, you need to test and look at the alsamixer levels with DIN jack in to go to TV
and test no sound to speakers-----I regard this as normal

pull out DIN jack ----relook at mixer levels and you should get sound out of speakers
----I expect this----but can't promise it
 
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Hi

this post has been EDITTED

ok

well lets clean up your reply 9, you have duplicated the output of your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf in reply (4)
so go to reply 9 click on edit and delete all of the file contents pls
---it makes it harder to scroll when there is duplicate stuff

2) Lets ignore DIN socket stuff until you are home----agreed

3) Ok step by step

we know you have opened a terminal in the past, since you seem reluctant to copy and paste into a terminal
either you don't know how or am just a bit uneasy?

so what ever terminal you used to show me alsamixer, open that again pls

now type and press enter into the terminal
Code:
sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
mint has a text editor called gedit so it should work?

now inside that file--- just press enter at the last line and then type
Quote:
options snd_hda_intel model=dell-m27
then save the file, I don't use gedit text editor but most editors either
have a pulldown option at top left to save OR
you can use keyboard shortcut which is
--hold down the ctrl key and press s

##################################

or copy and paste my previous request into a terminal as per reply 6 part (3) (now showing here)

so open a terminal

assuming you are right handed, hold left button of mouse ---ahh you have a laptop so hope you have bought a mouse
grab all of the command in that code box
move mouse into terminal---so that the mouse indicator is showing to the right of the $ symbol and press your wheel mouse down and if paste occurred press enter

---if you do not have a wheel mouse, press inside the terminal the left AND right buttons together at one

EDIT---hmm not sure what the correct term for mouse indicator is, but for me, when you move the mouse around in the terminal,
it looks like a capital I
-----and you also need to have installed gpm which is the mouse package but mint should already have it

I moved command to here.
Code:
sudo echo "
options snd_hda_intel model=dell-m27
" >>  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
#######################

If any of above fails, then use your package manager to install a terminal that allows mouse pulldowns
lxterminal or roxterm are fine examples of such terminals

---both also offer the ability to change font size on the fly, font types etc

good luck

then on full reboot
go back to reply 6 section 3 for the alsamixer command plse

#### eek I forgot to confirm if you have a mouse with your laptop and so may not have a mouse?
hold hold down left button on dell (latitude) while finger scrolling to the right in the synaptics pad
---will highlight text

press ctrl key with c ---to copy to buffer

open a terminal ---with no mouse cursor is already in correct position so
press ctrl key with v----to paste from buffer


---hopefully

Last edited by aus9; 10-29-2013 at 07:07 PM.
 
Old 10-29-2013, 08:43 PM   #12
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Hi aus9...

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well lets clean up your reply 9, you have duplicated the output of your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf in reply (4)
so go to reply 9 click on edit and delete all of the file contents pls
Done

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3) Ok step by step

we know you have opened a terminal in the past, since you seem reluctant to copy and paste into a terminal
either you don't know how or am just a bit uneasy?
Right...have done it, but uneasy.

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so what ever terminal you used to show me alsamixer, open that again pls

now type and press enter into the terminal
Code:
sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
mint has a text editor called gedit so it should work?
I tried it but Mint 14 has text editor kate, not gedit, so it didn't work. I hope it didn't screw anything up, but shouldn't have since it couldn't find gedit.

So, I replaced gedit with kate and it still didn't work, and gave me a lot of error messages, so I hope it also didn't screw anything up, but I'm not as confident since it did run the editor. Here's the output from you line with kate substituted for gedit:
===========
sudo kate /eyc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-crlinux" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
Error: "/tmp/kde-crlinux" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
Error: "/tmp/ksocket-crlinux" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
kdeinit4: Shutting down running client.
Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
Error: "/tmp/ksocket-crlinux" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
Error: "/tmp/kde-crlinux" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-crlinux" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
kbuildsycoca4 running...
Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-crlinux" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-crlinux" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
Error: "/tmp/kde-crlinux" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
===============

I am going to open alsa-base.conf in kate as root and follow your instructions below. That is now done as in your next instructions.
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now inside that file--- just press enter at the last line and then type
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Quote:
options snd_hda_intel model=dell-m27
then save the file
I think the stuff that followed this down to the line that says "then on full reboot". So, I haven't done the following quote yet, but will post this then reboot and come back to it. Incidentally, I do have a mouse with wheel, but since I manually edited in kate, need for a mouse in a terminal was irrelevant.

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then on full reboot
go back to reply 6 section 3 for the alsamixer command plse

#### eek I forgot to confirm if you have a mouse with your laptop and so may not have a mouse?
hold hold down left button on dell (latitude) while finger scrolling to the right in the synaptics pad
---will highlight text

press ctrl key with c ---to copy to buffer

open a terminal ---with no mouse cursor is already in correct position so
press ctrl key with v----to paste from buffer


---hopefully
Thanks!
Optiker
 
Old 10-29-2013, 09:14 PM   #13
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Howdy aus9...

rebooted, so continuing.
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Originally Posted by aus0 View Post
go back to reply 6 section 3 for the alsamixer command plse

#### eek I forgot to confirm if you have a mouse with your laptop and so may not have a mouse?
hold hold down left button on dell (latitude) while finger scrolling to the right in the synaptics pad
---will highlight text

press ctrl key with c ---to copy to buffer

open a terminal ---with no mouse cursor is already in correct position so
press ctrl key with v----to paste from buffer
I'm not sure where to go from here. Thread is getting confused...more like I'm confused!

Thanks!
Optiker
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:15 PM   #14
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ok you are on the right track but I need a larger image pls

lets work on what we both can see after reboot

1) Do you have sound from speakers?

2) I suggest not for the following reasons---see image

a) master is muted ----arrow right or left to it....press m to unmute it
page up it---to raise volumes currently 42----problably needs a min of 75

b) pcm has some volume of 100 but still muted so follow same procedure as (a)
page down it---to set at the same level as master

c) caputure onwards is mic or inputs so we can ignore

###############

those error messages are naughty things mint has for setup
start a new post later----in the mint forum
but some questions

A) Did you know you were using KDE?

B) I thought mint was either gnome or mate or something?
what distro version did you install?

C) Assuming you are running KDE---you know that KDE is resource hungry or more rudely----bloatware
----means not good for those running laptops with no chargers
 
Old 10-29-2013, 10:22 PM   #15
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ahh nadia is old
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint

it claims to be only Cinnamon, MATE graphical environments

time for me to be confused as well....giggles at own demise

Why are you using an out-of-date version?

Do you know the differences between the various main Desktop environments and window managers
-----and I repeat, did you know that some are not good for laptops on battery power?
 
  


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