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Old 03-31-2007, 02:06 AM   #46
LuisC-SM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoandar
Hi Luis,

Thanks for the suggestion. In the interim, I learned that I actually do have sound on the headphones, just not the speakers. I have read that complaint dozens of times on the forums, so it must be a pretty common hurdle.

I also just learned today that my son ( who just handed me down this notebook) said he had been having some problems with the headphone jack, and had tried to work on it without actually having the right tools. Although it works, he thinks he could have damaged the jack in a way that would short it, making the jack appear to the notebook to have a plug in it all the time. That could disrupt the sound to the speakers full time. So I need to disassemble the notebook and check that out. Once I get done doing that, I'll know more. If I still don't get sound on the speakers, I'll try SLED. ( I have tried OpenSUSE Live DVD in the interim, but had the same situation there, so I rebooted the Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy on the hard drive.)

Regards,

Larry
Hi Larry.

I've seen your problem before as a bug but it did not apply to ICH6 chip, as I was only interested in ICH7, I did not pay atention to the rest.
However, it's up to you to play a little with your notebook, sometimes we get better results going the Hard way" .
I wanted to mention that I wrote a howto to fix my BIOS to boot ACPI=on but requires some linux basic skills.
You can always take a look at:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=531575
I must say that it took me long time to find out how to fix it but finally it worked just fine on SLED 10.
On ubuntu I had to reformat my laptop 3 times with no joy (and I'm a real fan of ubuntu ). However, SLED is just OK. I'm starting to love it
My laptop works 99% except for the modem (which I never use cause I have an external one) audio sounds much better than windows (by the way this is a 100% linux laptop now)

Regards

Luis.

PS. Good luck while disassembling your laptop, I really hope you bring it back

EDIT: by the way, take a look at this message by Tim Sharif:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...86#post2668886

Last edited by LuisC-SM; 03-31-2007 at 02:22 AM.
 
Old 03-31-2007, 11:42 PM   #47
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Finding SLED10 ??

Well, I spent considerable time trying to track down SLED 10 last night. If it is freeware, I cannot find it. All I kept running into was Novell's offering for about $60. There seemed to be some correlation between SLED 10 and SUSE 10. I already have "OpenSUSE 10.2". Is it the same as the SLED 10 you are suggesting, or am I just not finding the right thing?

If I KNEW it would solve all my ills, I'd pay the $60. But there are so many distros out there that are free, ( I have already tried a few of them ) that I don't want to have to start buying any until I know they are the one I want.

In my search for any info on SLED, I found a forum post where a user said he did not like SLED, and preferred PC Linux 2007. So I found that and downloaded the ISO and made a disc for it. But as I mentioned, I have some other things taking priority at the moment, so I haven't actually tried it yet. They were not specific, but I think the PC Linux 2007 Live CD I got the ISO for is like Ubuntu 6.2 Edgy's Live CD, in that it may allow you to install the OS to your Hard Drive. Something I read seemed to hint at that, and I couldn't find an actual "Installation" disc ISO, so I figured it might work the same way.

As far as liking Ubuntu, the 6.2 Edgy seems nice. I have it using Gnome. I can't remember whether Ubuntu presented me with a KDE boot option like the OpenSUSE disc did. I tried that once from OpenSUSE, and I think KDE looks more like Windows, for those who want that. I don't mind Linux looking different, since it is a totally different OS. And I don't mind having to learn new things. But having hardware problems that are very difficult to solve right off the bat sucks some of the fun out of it all.

Where would you suggest I find SLED 10?

Larry
 
Old 04-01-2007, 07:40 PM   #48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoandar
Well, I spent considerable time trying to track down SLED 10 last night. If it is freeware, I cannot find it. All I kept running into was Novell's offering for about $60. There seemed to be some correlation between SLED 10 and SUSE 10. I already have "OpenSUSE 10.2". Is it the same as the SLED 10 you are suggesting, or am I just not finding the right thing?

If I KNEW it would solve all my ills, I'd pay the $60. But there are so many distros out there that are free, ( I have already tried a few of them ) that I don't want to have to start buying any until I know they are the one I want.

In my search for any info on SLED, I found a forum post where a user said he did not like SLED, and preferred PC Linux 2007. So I found that and downloaded the ISO and made a disc for it. But as I mentioned, I have some other things taking priority at the moment, so I haven't actually tried it yet. They were not specific, but I think the PC Linux 2007 Live CD I got the ISO for is like Ubuntu 6.2 Edgy's Live CD, in that it may allow you to install the OS to your Hard Drive. Something I read seemed to hint at that, and I couldn't find an actual "Installation" disc ISO, so I figured it might work the same way.


As far as liking Ubuntu, the 6.2 Edgy seems nice. I have it using Gnome. I can't remember whether Ubuntu presented me with a KDE boot option like the OpenSUSE disc did. I tried that once from OpenSUSE, and I think KDE looks more like Windows, for those who want that. I don't mind Linux looking different, since it is a totally different OS. And I don't mind having to learn new things. But having hardware problems that are very difficult to solve right off the bat sucks some of the fun out of it all.

Where would you suggest I find SLED 10?

Larry
Hi Larry

You can find SLED 10 right in the following link
http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/
I've been using Ubuntu since v5.10 and that is a distribuition that I really love.
In fact, thanks to Ubuntu I have been able to learn linux. I must say that I owe a lot to ubuntu. I have installed ubuntu 6.06 server since last year and I had no single issue, but I also must be honest; by now, SLED 10 has solved all my hardware problems with my personal laptop, it is a beautifull distribution, easy and has everything I need (you have mp3 out of the box). It has a US$ 50. cost for one year but you have 2 months of free service and updates before you decide to pay for it. Service pack 1 is going to be released in May with a lot of enhancements and fixes and believe me it's worth it.
My wife uses Xandros, My eldest daughter uses Linspire 5.0 my youngest daughter uses Ubuntu Edgy Eft, as you can see we all are a Linux Family just with different tastes .
I'm almost sure you will not regret using SLED 10. Remember, linux is a matter of tastes.

Kind Regards

Luis
 
Old 04-18-2007, 01:07 PM   #49
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I have a HP Pavilion dv6120 notebook and use Slackware with kernel 2.6.16.47.

My sound card is based on the Intel HDA and I compiled its kernel's driver as module.
Everything seems to work great, module autodected and up.
I type the 'alsaconf' command and alsa detected the sound card.
But when i typed the 'alsamixer' command, I became confused, there is no Master Volume, only the PCM bar and it seems to don't work.
I started the KDE and the sound work, but in the max volume. I can't minimize it or turn it off, so i removed the module to make sound mute.

After a long search on google, i found this topic and tried to recompile ALSA.
The Master Volume back with the Headphone bar
But after reboot the machine, i got many errors about the driver and can't modprobe it again

Someone know how fix this problem?

# lspci
Code:
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3)
00:0a.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PMU (rev a3)
00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev f1)
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev f1)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
The kernel .config:
Code:
#
# ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_IBM is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER is not set

#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=y

#
# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY=m
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQ_RTCTIMER_DEFAULT=y
# CONFIG_SND_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set
CONFIG_SND_SUPPORT_OLD_API=y
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set

#
# Generic devices
#
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_BUS=m
# CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MTPAV is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MPU401 is not set

#
# PCI devices
#
# CONFIG_SND_AD1889 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS4000 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALI5451 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8810 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8820 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8830 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AZT3328 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_BT87X is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CA0106 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS4281 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS46XX is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS5535AUDIO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DARLA20 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_GINA20 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_LAYLA20 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DARLA24 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_GINA24 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_LAYLA24 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MONA is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIA is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ECHO3G is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INDIGO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INDIGOIO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INDIGODJ is not set
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1X is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1938 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1968 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_FM801 is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
# CONFIG_SND_HDSP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDSPM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1712 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set
CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
# CONFIG_SND_KORG1212 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MAESTRO3 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIXART is not set
# CONFIG_SND_NM256 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_PCXHR is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME32 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME96 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME9652 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SONICVIBES is not set
# CONFIG_SND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VX222 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_YMFPCI is not set

#
# USB devices
#
# CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_USB_USX2Y is not set

#
# Open Sound System
#
# CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME is not set
 
Old 04-19-2007, 07:37 PM   #50
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Sled 10

Thanks, Luis.

I won't pay for a distribution of Linux unless I am certain it will let me operate the wifi and speakers in the notebook I am trying to convert. One thing about Linux, and all the forums, is that it so far has cost me only some spare time. But if I had spent $50 for each distro I have tried with no success so far, I would have spent far more than I consider the project to be worth.

My attention is focused on a different, electronics-related project that I have built and am debugging now, so the notebook has been set aside. I'll pick the notebook back up when the current, more important, project is completed.

Thanks again for the advice!

Larry
 
Old 04-21-2007, 04:52 AM   #51
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mr zoandar

why you want to "buy" adistro that makes your sound and wifi workin in you laptop ,

am using ubuntu on my laptop and every thing seems to be nice
 
Old 04-22-2007, 03:03 PM   #52
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Hi folks. I got my sound to work in my HP Pavilion dv6120 notebook.
The erros after re-compiling alsa was fixed by removing the /lib/modules/KERNEL folder and installing all the modules back with the 'make modules_install' in the kernel PATH.

I'm here to report that the module present on kernel 2.6.16.47 is broked.
My sound card, nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio, only have the PCM bar with this module. So the sound was all the time at the max.

Now, with kernel 2.6.20.7, I got the Headphone, PCM and Speakers bars agaim.
 
Old 04-22-2007, 06:31 PM   #53
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mr ikhnaton

you made the sound working by using this how to or what ? ....
 
Old 04-24-2007, 01:53 PM   #54
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1 - I compiled the alsa codes as was told in the beginning of this topic. (Sound still buged)
2 - I compiled the kernel 2.6.20.7 sources with module for Intel HDA (snd-hda-intel).
3 - After install the kernel and its modules, I typed 'alsaconf' and the sound card were found. xD

After these steps, I got my sound to work on my HP Pavilion dv6120 notebook.

* Note that I mencioned above that the modules present in kernel 2.6.16.47 souces not worked for me. The sound don't have any control of volume and it was aways in MAX.

Cya.

Last edited by ikhnaton; 04-24-2007 at 01:55 PM.
 
Old 04-24-2007, 06:32 PM   #55
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thanx for you help

Cheers
 
Old 04-25-2007, 08:43 PM   #56
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adam_blackice said:

Quote:
mr zoandar

why you want to "buy" adistro that makes your sound and wifi workin in you laptop ,

am using ubuntu on my laptop and every thing seems to be nice
Actually, I don't want to buy any distro if I can get a free one that will do the job. I began with Ubuntu. It was the first one that did not enable the speakers on this HP DV1000 notebook. The headphone jack works, but I want the speakers to work too.

The reply you saw was to another person suggesting I pay for SLED, beause it doesn't appear that Novell has released a free copy, which was what I had been trying to find. When I asked where I might find it free, he was telling me that I could get if right from Novell for less than $100.

I am curious what make and model your notebook is. Maybe if it is close to mine, we could figure out what you did differently than what I did setting it up?

Last edited by Zoandar; 04-25-2007 at 08:50 PM.
 
Old 04-25-2007, 08:47 PM   #57
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Question How do I compile a kernel?

To - ikhnaton --

Maybe this same procedure would work on my HP DV1000? However, compiling a kernel for Linux is a step above my level of understanding at this time. If you could point me to a good source of step by step instructions on what is needed and how it is done, I'd like to try.

Thanks!
 
Old 04-25-2007, 09:01 PM   #58
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Louis,

I guess I never got back here and reported on the results of the surgery. In order to access the headphone jacks, the entire notebook has to be gutted until you can remove its motherboard. Having done that, I was able to desolder the defective jack. That in itself was quite an accomplishment. I do have a temperature controlled soldering station, with a very pointed iron tip. But it is still pretty difficult to get in and access all the pins ( I think there were 6 on each jack if memory serves) without disturbing all the surface-mounted components all around it ( and there are a great many!) But, with careful determination, I did succeed, and the defective jack is removed. If I needed them both, I would feel confident installing a replacement. But the remaining one still works just fine after reassembly, so that is enough for me. Unfortunately, it did not resolve the lack of speaker support.

Since working on that, I have been devoting my attention to another electronics project, so I set the notebook aside for awhile, after installing and trying PCLinux OS 2007 ( which I think I like best of all the distros I have tried so far).

When I get time to work on it some more, I'll check out the URL you posted to me early in our discussion.
 
Old 04-26-2007, 05:39 PM   #59
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so mr zoandar you want to get SLED itis freely available on torrent and amule clients you just search and get it but i think itis better to try fedora or mandriva also
 
Old 04-26-2007, 08:33 PM   #60
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Thanks, Adam.

I'll keep this information in mind.
 
  


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