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Old 08-30-2016, 05:11 PM   #1
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Please suggest for new laptop


Hi All,

please suggest me to purchase new best i3 or i5 and Ubuntu os


thanks
 
Old 08-30-2016, 07:37 PM   #2
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More information regarding your computer needs and expectations would be helpful, but based on your question
I highly recommend an i5 processor over the i3. I have one latop with i3 and one with i5 and i5 is much, much faster. Part of that can be attributed to 6 gb ram as opposed to 4, a SSD as opposed to a HDD. Computer hardware consists of more than just a processor and it all has a factor in overall computer performance. Get the opinion of the techie's at your local computer shop, they are usually glad to help.
Regarding ubuntu, if that is what you want, then I would suggest the new 16.04 version which is LTS (long term support).

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Old 08-30-2016, 07:39 PM   #3
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I recommend i3 unless you need 4 cores of i5. Less heat, better battery life. My 3.7 GHz i3 desktop is drastically faster than my 2.4 GHz i5 laptop.
 
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Old 08-31-2016, 12:01 AM   #4
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please suggest me to purchase new best i3 or i5 and Ubuntu os
Hi...

In terms of hardware compatibility, perhaps purchasing a laptop with Linux preinstalled might be the way to go. You can find a couple vendors using these links...

http://zareason.com/shop/home.php

https://system76.com/

Regards...
 
Old 08-31-2016, 03:12 AM   #5
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In addition to system76 and zareason, there's a third vendor on the horizon now:

https://puri.sm/store/

The 15 in model looks quite good, though I thought that there used to be an option to pre-order a much higher resolution. The 13 inch model has a longer battery life.
 
Old 10-04-2016, 03:52 AM   #6
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Hi,

The specifications would depend on your needs. Whether you'll be doing gaming and number crunching or just some word processing and database management.

For a general purpose computer nowadays I think the following (minimum requirements) is a must:

- i5 with 2 cores each clocking at around 2.2-2.4 GHz
- 8 GB RAM
- 2TB HDD or 5GB SSD
- at least two USB 3.0 ports
- battery life going at least 6 hours

Concerning the brand, there are various of them who can give you the above. I go with HP because I use HP laptops with since 2010 and everything works nicely. I was using Ubuntu in the early 2010's, now I use Slackware Linux and the i5 with 8GB of RAM runs very fast. You don't need i5 with 4 cores. Intel's 2 cores i5 are very good and very energy efficient. Their graphic capability is also quite impressive. If, in addition you have a graphic card, you can make use of hybrid graphics in order to do energy saving.
 
Old 10-04-2016, 04:40 AM   #7
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After having a closer look at mobile CPU's there really is no difference between i3, i5 and i7. Intel seems to be cheating on customers. i5 is clocked higher than i3 - but both still have 2 cores.
 
Old 10-04-2016, 08:17 AM   #8
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Indeed, Intel has gotten very bad with their naming and you now MUST research every CPU name before making a purchase. Thankfully Intel has a site that shows the spec of every CPU they sell.

Intel is now selling Atom based processors as straight i series rather than listing them as m series, Celeron, Pentium, or Atom, so pay close attention to that as well.

If you are OK with CPU speed being a little slower, but you want much better video performance without having to shell out extra money for a dedicated GPU, then consider getting a 4 core AMD APU based laptop. cpu-world.com lists the processor speed and how many shaders are in the GPU. Any APU with 384 shaders or more will utterly destroy Intel integrated graphics (with the exception of Iris Pro on the expensive laptops). Another nice thing about AMD is that they don't hold back on CPU extensions, such as virtualization, as Intel still does on many CPUs, which is something to watch out for if you are using 64Bit virtual machines.

A dual core with hyperthreading will be pretty good for most things, however there are still some true Intel quad core processors with HT in the mobile market, which would be the top end as of now. 8 threads are great for gcc, video encoding, and other such use cases. An AMD APU of the A8, A10, A12, or FX will be better than an Atom bases Intel for productivity and graphic apps. Most anything is good enough for Netflix and browsing.
 
Old 10-04-2016, 08:32 AM   #9
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one that works and will fit your pocket book. if you're buying used go for an i5 or an i7 if you can swing it, as what I have seen in most places (ebay) i3 and i5 2nd gen they both run aroud the same price. and still are usable CPU's .


if you check Intel specs on thier CPU's they are not really working on speed boost between 2nd and like 4th gen maybe even up to 5th gen. they are working on BUS speed in bit width 2.0 ~ 3.0 etc

I got an eBay special i5 eleitbook /and charger and Windows OS (that I wiped and installed linux) for 100 bucks free shipping.

Just needed to replace the keyboard and viola, if you're good at using a screw driver, then most that say screen does not work only need a new screen which you can get off ebay as well or keyboard or most any part.

But be careful and ask questions first to determin if it is or has a better chance that all it really needs is a screen. they don't cost that much either if you shop around, used is 20 bucks and up for either one, KB, screen. that is all ...

(I actually got a different MB with ATI chip, and i7-2760QM , HD+ cable and new screen to get a higer rez and slapped all of that into it) just another ~100 bucks total, all together around 200 bucks total for a nice HP laptop when if I'd a bought it like that would have cost me 300+ bucks and still not getting a charger with it. (eBay experiences)

yes read from another post. Dual core atoms CPUs suck they are no faster stay away from them unless you're only going to be doing emails .. MO

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Old 10-04-2016, 09:44 AM   #10
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After having a closer look at mobile CPU's there really is no difference between i3, i5 and i7. Intel seems to be cheating on customers. i5 is clocked higher than i3 - but both still have 2 cores.
Even most i7's are still only 2 cores.

i7's have more L3 cache and are faster than i5's.
i5's are faster than i3's.

Then there's the H series (usually hq, but not always). These are NOT ultra low voltage. i5 hq will be quad core not-hyperthreaded, i7 h1 will be quad-core hyperthreaded. Sucks down battery life, but if you need max processing power, these are the chips to go with.
 
Old 10-04-2016, 10:41 AM   #11
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My desktop i3 beats my mobile i5 hands down.
 
Old 10-04-2016, 10:51 AM   #12
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My desktop i3 beats my mobile i5 hands down.
As it should. One of the higher end desktop i3's should handily beat any mobile "U" chip, even the i7's. This is what happens when comparing a 45-watt desktop chip to a 15-watt mobile chip based on the same (or at least very similar if they're different generations) core.
 
Old 10-04-2016, 11:19 AM   #13
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I'm surprised this was left out.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-14-an013nr...l?ie=UTF8&s=pc

It is not I3 or I5 or I7,or Ubuntu, I know. But I remember a member here <probably posting in this thread>
with glowing things to say for this nice new unit that just works out of the box using Arch
Linux.

Edit: might as well post my specs since I5 was mentioned. Model name in mentioned in code tag readout.

Code:
harry@biker:~
$ inxi -f
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-3320M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 3300 MHz 1: 3185 MHz 2: 3214 MHz 3: 3216 MHz
           4: 1552 MHz
           CPU Flags: acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon avx bts
           clflush cmov constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts
           eagerfpu epb ept erms est f16c flexpriority fpu fsgsbase fxsr ht
           ida lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nx pae pat
           pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pts
           rdrand rdtscp sep smep smx ss sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 tm tm2
           tpr_shadow tsc tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic xsave
           xsaveopt xtopology xtpr
harry@biker:~
$ inxi -M
Machine:   System: LENOVO (portable) product: 2347DS2 v: ThinkPad T430
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 2347DS2
           UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO v: G1ET41WW (1.16 ) date: 05/25/2012
Battery    BAT0: charge: 35.4 Wh 100.0% condition: 35.4/56.2 Wh (63%)
harry@biker:~
$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16314516     926864   15387652      66296      59068     513500
-/+ buffers/cache:     354296   15960220
Swap:      4095996          0    4095996
harry@biker:~
$

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Old 10-04-2016, 11:28 AM   #14
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Quote:
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I'm surprised this was left out.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-14-an013nr...l?ie=UTF8&s=pc

It is not I3 or I5 or I7,or Ubuntu, I know. But I remember a member here <probably posting in this thread>
with glowing things to say for this nice new unit that just works out of the box using Arch
Linux.
Yes it does. IT's not TREMENDOUSLY fast, but it's quite usable. I found out you CAN upgrade the ram too (there's 2 slots, only 1 filled), so for ~$30 could upgrade to 8 GB, and the eMMC is an mSATA eMMC card, so IN THEORY you could even put a REAL mSATA SSD in it (I haven't bothered trying, I have the 32 GB eMMC card as /, /boot/efi & swap and then a 32 GB SD-Card as /home) if one needed more storage space. And of course, the selling point for the little an013nr (it needs a better name) is that GORGEOUS 14" 1920x1080 resolution LCD despite it's low-end Chromebook price. That alone makes it worth the price. Sure, battery life is fairly low (4-5 hours depending on your screen brightness), the cpu isn't a powerhouse by any means (quad core AMD APU that runs ~ 1.8 GHz, no turbo, so 1.8 is the fastest it goes), and it's not the smallest or lightest for a 14" laptop (although it is light for a 14", there's a LOT of wasted space on the inside), and it has actually a very nice keyboard IMO. I prefer the keyboard to any of the HP Elitebooks I've used over the years, and most of the pre-exx50 Latitudes). In fact, the only laptop I can think of that I've owned that had as nice a keyboard was the HP Streambook 13, which I dare say they probably use the same keyboard just different colored keys.

But yeah, if OP is looking for an incredible value and is ok with not having insane performance but is instead looking for good enough performance and a BEAUTIFUL screen (and great compatibility with linux), then the 14-an013nr is definitely an incredibly good value. Several of my friends have bought them simply because of how much I rave about the value, and they're all happy with them (and most of them are now running linux as well on them).
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rokytnji View Post
I'm surprised this was left out.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-14-an013nr...l?ie=UTF8&s=pc

It is not I3 or I5 or I7,or Ubuntu, I know. But I remember a member here <probably posting in this thread>
with glowing things to say for this nice new unit that just works out of the box using Arch
Linux.

Edit: might as well post my specs since I5 was mentioned. Model name in mentioned in code tag readout.

Code:
harry@biker:~
$ inxi -f
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-3320M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 3300 MHz 1: 3185 MHz 2: 3214 MHz 3: 3216 MHz
           4: 1552 MHz
           CPU Flags: acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon avx bts
           clflush cmov constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts
           eagerfpu epb ept erms est f16c flexpriority fpu fsgsbase fxsr ht
           ida lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nx pae pat
           pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pts
           rdrand rdtscp sep smep smx ss sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 tm tm2
           tpr_shadow tsc tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic xsave
           xsaveopt xtopology xtpr
harry@biker:~
$ inxi -M
Machine:   System: LENOVO (portable) product: 2347DS2 v: ThinkPad T430
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 2347DS2
           UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO v: G1ET41WW (1.16 ) date: 05/25/2012
Battery    BAT0: charge: 35.4 Wh 100.0% condition: 35.4/56.2 Wh (63%)
harry@biker:~
$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16314516     926864   15387652      66296      59068     513500
-/+ buffers/cache:     354296   15960220
Swap:      4095996          0    4095996
harry@biker:~
$
if you're in Canada like me, there are way better laptops than that one for $400 retailers here are charging. Our prices are generally pretty crap, so you really have to be careful. It can be overwhelming.

In Canada Dell has the Inspiron 15 Gaming on for $800 at the moment. Good deal there, 4 core i5 HQ, 8GB RAM, Nvidia 960 video, 1080p 15" screen. Only thing I have seen around those specs is an Acer near the same price/spec.
 
  


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