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Old 11-01-2003, 08:45 AM   #1
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PC-Cards help


I am trying to install slackware on an old lap top the only cdrom drive connects through a PC-Card. How do I mount the cdrom drive more accuratly what do I call IE when mount a hard drive you cal it /dev/hdx For future refrence is there a good palce or how to on PC-Cards new to PC-Cards as well ok with desktops tough. tanks
 
Old 11-01-2003, 10:29 AM   #2
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For me, socket 0 is '/dev/ttyS1'...mabey you can try that...anyone of the /dev/ttyS0 - S4...could/should be it.

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Old 11-03-2003, 11:52 AM   #3
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when I try that it says /dev/ttyS0-S4 is not a block device any other suggestions.
 
Old 11-03-2003, 07:58 PM   #4
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Its most likealy not going to show up as a serial terminal, but there's one intermediary step, when you mean PC card you mean pcmcia device right? Its not a pcmcia USB card and a USB CD-rom or anything like that but a pcmcia card with a connector that is very specific to the cdrom?

It'll appear in dmesg if it was detected. Yeah, its a little odd, but its possible for a kernel and a root filesystem to be loaded to ram from cdrom but to then not recognize the cdrom they loaded from.

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It might have showed up as a scsi device...

If it didn't, it might just take activating pcmcia to get it to work... you're prompted with the command right after boot or login, its someing like "add pcmcia"

Cheers,

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Old 11-05-2003, 09:40 AM   #5
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Yes, we are talking pcmcia. Sorry it took so long to get back here a friend stopped by 2 days ago and the computer that I pieced to gether for him mother board died.

What I have done is made 3 disk form my slackware 8.0 CD boot, root and, pcmcia supplemental. I did that because there is no other way to boot it. the problem is that I do not know how to mount the cdrom drive to install.

I think this is the significant part of dmesg


Linux PCMCIA card Services 3.1.26
kernel build 2.2.19 #22 Wed Jun 20 18:12:16 PDT 2001
options: [pci] [cardbus]
Intel PCIC probe:
Cirrus PD672x rev 00 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00
hosts opts [0]: [ring] [65/6/0] [1/15/0]
hosts opts [1]: [ring] [65/6/0] [1/15/0]
ISA irqs (default) = 3,4,5,7,9,10,11,12 polling interval = 1000 ms
cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean.

If you need more info I will get it. If this is enough please tell me how you figured it out I want to learn not just do.
 
Old 11-06-2003, 05:51 PM   #6
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Whew, okay this one is a little weird. Right now, it doesn't look like its seeing that pcmcia-cdrom, but then again Patrick didn't cram that many drivers onto the pomcia supplemental disk and most of them were with an eye towards getting networking.

The typical driver for ide devices over pcmcia is called ide-cs.o, mount the pcmcia supplemental disk and see if that's in there.

Last point of note. You have an old cirrus PD series pcmcia bridge. Slack 8.0 is about the most recent distro you'll be able to put on that machine. When they switched pcmcia from the external pcmcia-cs package to in-kernel around 2.4.7, they ditched support for a lot of these older cirrus bridges, I'm almost certain that is among them. Slack 8.0 runs off of a 2.2.x kernel by default and even if you install the 2.4.5 kernel it'll work just fine.

Cheers,

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Old 11-10-2003, 09:27 AM   #7
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Yes it does have ide_cs.o.gz. When I researched whether this cdrom was supported I was told that if it conformed to the ide over pcmcia standard then it would work. So I will assume that it is not. Could you tell me if slackware can still be installed from floppy using the packages and how to make the disks or would that be better for the slackware section.

I would not really be looking for a gui just basic install and some of the network section for when I find a 16 bit pcmcia lan card.

Thank you for all the help I really appreciate it.
 
Old 11-10-2003, 05:44 PM   #8
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It can't go on from floppy, not since... 7.0 or somesuch, maybe even 3.4.

NFS Install looks about it, or pull the drive and find a mini-IDE to IDE adapter and just do the install from a desktop.

Cheers,

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Old 11-11-2003, 09:28 AM   #9
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Thank you! Anything real dificult about nfs install?
 
Old 11-11-2003, 04:37 PM   #10
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Not really... make certain on your host machine to set /etc/exports right so that the IP you manually give the laptop will be ok'ed to mount whatever from the host machine. There are a few tricks to NFS sharing out the actual mounted cdrom, since its basically sharing off a mount of a mount, but a little googling for NFS will be easier then me bungling through a half-remembered explination. I last did an NFS install with Mandy around the 8.0 era, a year and change ago. I really just wish Patrick would create an http/ftp net-install solution.

Luck,

Finegan
 
Old 11-12-2003, 09:24 AM   #11
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Ok sudent be a problem then. Thanks for the help.
 
Old 11-19-2003, 10:55 AM   #12
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OK good news I have slackware 8.0 on my laptop!! I have one small problem my pcmcia lan card won't work my dad loaned me his linksys card to get linux loaded.


My Card is a D-Link DFE-670TXD. I checked before buying and it is supported by the tulip module. The problem is that in /etc/pcmcia/config dosen't have a listing for my card and what module to load. Could someone tell me what I need to put in this file to make it work.
 
Old 11-19-2003, 02:46 PM   #13
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Edit in your own entry... Take the output of:

/sbin/cardctl ident

And monkey with it some until you can make an entry like:

Code:
card "Connectware LANdingGear Ethernet"
  manfid 0x0057, 0x1004
  bind "pcnet_cs"
The first line is window dressing, you could put "bob" there if you like... the second line, the manfid, is the really important part, make certain to get the syntax and the spacing exact.

The Bind line is also important, btw... pcnet_cs is actually the module, its also known as tulip_cb under cardbus, but this is a really old pcmcia, so it should be pcnet_cs. The D-Link card is a new rev of an older dlink card... they just change its ident info... why I have no idea, so your 2+1/2 year old pcmcia-cs doesn't have an entry.

After editing it, hard restart pcmcia so cardmgr re-reads the file config:

/etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia restart

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 11-20-2003, 01:36 PM   #14
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It works!! Thank you for all your help!!!! I can now get on wiht using it. I learned alot Thanks agian!
 
  


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