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Old 03-24-2004, 11:41 AM   #1
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Notebook freezes on boot with ACPI enabled


I have a Medion 40653 laptop with an AMD 64 3000+ processor. I have installed Mandrake 9.2 for AMD64 running the 2.4.22 kernel. If I boot the computer with ACPI enabled then it hangs at the line:
ACPI : Embedded Controller [EC] (gpe11)

I have tried :
- upgrading the kernel to 2.6.3
- using a variety of kernel options (but I don't know them all)
- the latest BIOS upgrade for my notebook

and nothing works. I can only start the computer with acpi=off.

I'm not sure if it's relevant, but I had to disable legacy usb support in the bios in order to install this version of Mandrake. When I had the 32 bit equivalent installed, ACPI worked (although no throttling control, no powernow).

Does anybody have any ideas?
 
Old 03-24-2004, 11:45 AM   #2
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Re: Notebook freezes on boot with ACPI enabled

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Originally posted by maddoug
I have a Medion 40653 laptop with an AMD 64 3000+ processor. I have installed Mandrake 9.2 for AMD64 running the 2.4.22 kernel. If I boot the computer with ACPI enabled then it hangs at the line:
ACPI : Embedded Controller [EC] (gpe11)

I have tried :
- upgrading the kernel to 2.6.3
- using a variety of kernel options (but I don't know them all)
- the latest BIOS upgrade for my notebook

and nothing works. I can only start the computer with acpi=off.

I'm not sure if it's relevant, but I had to disable legacy usb support in the bios in order to install this version of Mandrake. When I had the 32 bit equivalent installed, ACPI worked (although no throttling control, no powernow).

Does anybody have any ideas?
To be honest with you, I've had mixed results using ACPI on different systems. I've been pretty fortunate; it's worked for me on Mandrake systems, but I've gotten hangs on some other systems in the past. I've had pretty good success, on the other hand, when I've used APM instead of ACPI. Not sure if that's a statement about the relative maturity of the code, but it could be. One suggestion would be to disable ACPI for the time being and try APM instead.
 
Old 03-24-2004, 02:40 PM   #3
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Thanks for the quick reply. Do you know if the amd powernow works with apm, or do I need to have acpi enabled first?

Also, when I run make menuconfig (or xconfig etc.) I do not have any apm options. Do I need to patch the kernel? Where can I get such a patch?
 
Old 03-24-2004, 02:47 PM   #4
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some laptops have awful acpi bios support. You might have one of those laptops. apm and acpi are two seperate systems. you can run them concurrently but that make little sense. I suggest you try apm and see how that will work. On my laptop my bios has a special screen for acpi that shows the battery and other statistics. I had to update my bios to a newer one for acpi to work though. You need either apm or acpi on your laptop. acpi is better if you can get it to work. but apm would suffice.
 
Old 03-25-2004, 11:48 AM   #5
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if you are using grub, you have to enable by appending to your grub.conf

the line of you kernel append : acpi=on

oh and next time, do a rpm -ihv <kernel>
 
Old 03-29-2004, 02:47 AM   #6
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Thanks for the comments, but I have abandoned MDK 9.2 AMD64. Over the weekend I installed Slackware 9.1 and ACPI is working! My laptop still runs quite hot and the fan is always on (although on low). Does anybody know what I have to do to get PowerNow support for this processor (AMD64 3000+) ?
 
Old 04-05-2004, 06:40 AM   #7
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I have installed Mandrake 9.2 for AMD64 running the 2.4.22 kernel.
Kernels older than 2.4.22 (or 2.4.23, i don't remember) won't make work many laptops... My compaq presario 2800 did not give any acpi data with those kernels; i had to update to a 2.4.24 to have acpi support. (only then was the support for buggy bioses).

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installed Slackware 9.1 and ACPI is working!
And what kernel are you using ?
 
Old 04-05-2004, 07:34 AM   #8
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When I installed Mandrake 9.2 AMD64 the default kernel was 2.4.22. I compiled the 2.6.3 kernel and had the same problem with ACPI enabled. Using Slackware the default was 2.4.22 as well but ACPI worked (in fact, as it did with Mandrake 9.2 for 32 bit processors). I am now using the 2.6.4 kernel and have managed to enable PowerNow and cpufreq. My laptop runs much cooler and the fan actually switches off now!
 
Old 04-05-2004, 01:07 PM   #9
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my notebook runs hot as well even with acpi (not as bad as without!).

I wish I could have the same luck as you all with the 2.6.4 kernel; I cannot launch X and I know for a fact even with the 2.6.0 come foward I get no sound.

Some help here would be nice

HP Pavillion 4420us
AMD XP2200
Radeon IGP 320M
M5451 Pci AC-Link Controller Audio Device (currently using trident driver)
 
Old 04-08-2004, 02:25 AM   #10
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I found that when I compiled my first 2.6.x kernel, many things didn't work (net, sound, mouse ...). Some of these were due to poor decisions in the .config file but others were due to name changes in the modules. For example I used the module bcm4400 for my Broadcom network card but in 2.6.x I had to use b44. I thought that my soundcard driver had dissapeared but I later found it in the OSS section and I had always been looking in ALSA. Maybe you have problems starting X because the kernel can no longer find the driver for your videocard.

I compiled the 2.6.4 kernel, with ACPI & CPU Frequency scaling enabled and the correct PowerNow module selected (in your case k6 or k7 I guess). I read some posts that Plug and Play, Local APIC and IOMMU had to be disabled but they didn't cause me any problems. Afterwards, I installed and started up cpufreqd and played with the configuration file to get the frequency to increase/decrease as I wanted.
 
Old 04-09-2004, 11:30 AM   #11
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and how exactly can I resolve this with the display and sound?
 
Old 04-14-2004, 10:27 AM   #12
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Are you sure that you compiled the correct drivers for your hardware? If you compiled them as modules you will have to load them for the hardware to work.
 
Old 04-14-2004, 10:53 PM   #13
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ok to be more specific, I used the kernel rpms provided by fedora (lazyness in me). Not that I haven't compiled kernels(my current is custom for 2.4.22) but if I grab the kernel from kernel.org it shouldn't make a difference with respect ot drivers right?

Drivers were present and working up to k2.6.2 and after that I lost X....why would they remove drivers? -IF thats what you mean
 
  


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