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hi, so i downloded the img file and put it on usb stick using unetbootin.
after boot it open the installtion window so i press enter and it only giving me dot's and do nothing.
any ideas?
i'm using fujitsu siemens amilo mini.
I'm not sure if this is the cause but with the moblin image, you shouldn't use unetbootin, as far as I know. You should dd it to the USB stick. (Which will remove all other data on the USB stick.)
They have instructions on their site, but it's basically just
dd if=moblin.img of=/dev/sdWhatever, with Whatever being b or c or whatever name your system gives the USB stick.
Note that (if the USB was /dev/sdb) you don't use /dev/sdb1, you do /dev/sdb. You can also put in bs--either 2M or 4M, (they give instructions, I used the wrong one out of habit, and it didn't make any difference.) That would be dd bs=4096 if etc.
I'm not sure if this is the cause but with the moblin image, you shouldn't use unetbootin, as far as I know. You should dd it to the USB stick. (Which will remove all other data on the USB stick.)
They have instructions on their site, but it's basically just
dd if=moblin.img of=/dev/sdWhatever, with Whatever being b or c or whatever name your system gives the USB stick.
Note that (if the USB was /dev/sdb) you don't use /dev/sdb1, you do /dev/sdb. You can also put in bs--either 2M or 4M, (they give instructions, I used the wrong one out of habit, and it didn't make any difference.) That would be dd bs=4096 if etc.
About that: the instructions say you can also make a Live CD. (I have an Atom computer - Gigabyte M912 - and a USB bootable external CD.) However, the image file is 721 MB. Don't CDs only go up to 700 MB? (I actually know that the answer is "no" but I suspect that isn't the right question. Regardless, any feedback...)
Looking at the CD's I have here, yeah, they're 700 MB. Hard to believe they didn't think that it might be worthwhile cutting out 21MB somewhere.
This actually seems to be more and more common, making images too large for standard CDs. Ah well, it's not only MS/Apple suffering from bloat.
You might try following the instructions for burning to CD. I don't know if it will be too large or not.
Is just dd-ing it to a USB stick defintely out?
No - but my distro collecting habit mostly goes: (1) download ISO, MD5, and docs; (2) store the files on a CD; (3) use the ISO to create the Live CD; (4) if I like the product, put it on a stick so I can use it without the optical drive - or use it and use the optical drive. But CD-R and CD-RW are cheap. I have just decided I like SystemRescueCD enough to buy a new stick for that - however, it's a 512 MB one. (I think they were propping up a table leg in the store.)
I have Windows needs, and partitioning just-so for Windows is enough trouble without slipping Linux on the hard disk as well, for me, particularly if I'm gonna change versions. I have in mind to use Linux mainly for maintenance tasks that Windows doesn't allow. And for me, studying instructions to put multiple Linux on one stick quickly makes me feel that just buying another spare stick isn't so bad.
It's an open secret that CDs can be burned beyond their official size limit, but "overburn" is rumoured to risk killing your optical drive, or maybe your family if that laser beam overloads :-) Let's see whether the Moblin "at own risk" licence stands up then... (I tried it. Nobody died, but my Nero froze at 99 per cent done.)
Online you can also buy CD media up to 99 minutes, invented around 2001, but they may have other issues (report as 80:00 for instance) and aren't in stores in walking distance. Maybe the file is a DVD: if it isn't, maybe I can use it as one, I don't know, aren't they different?
I know a bit more than I implied, but not enough. I sent the developers a naive note, "Uh, you don't get CDs this size" so I may get an answer there.
"Standard CD" used to be 650 MB and 74 minutes; I think larger disks work by winding the spiral data track more tightly - you know, like a watch spring. Distros this much over 700 MB is new to me, but I'm not such a connoisseur.
I also have Live sticks of Knoppix (updated when?) and Ubuntu "Vapid Vanilla". I wasn't and am not even sure whether Moblin is something I need to see, and comments I've seen such as "Far fewer fatal errors in this edition" (I guess they didn't have deadly CD writer issues) and "After a while you don't miss being able to resize windows" aren't encouraging. But since I have this Atom machine (as well as other PCs) I figured I "ought" to try it.
Last edited by Robert Carnegie; 11-03-2009 at 06:24 AM.
I have a few USB sticks, since I get into testing new distros on the netbooks. So, dd-ing moblin isn't a big deal for me. If you have the sticks, it's probably the easiest solution, but I'll be curious as to their answer about the CD size.
No answer received from the Moblin people about CD making, could have been eaten by either of my webmail spam filters I suppose, but I found a basic workaround there: use a DVD. It appears that some iso-burner software makes you respect the original disc type and some doesn't, or makes it optional, and one that doesn't is the free download ImgBurn 2.5.0.0. Just now I forget whether I specifically had to change a setting to make it work with Moblin 2.1, now 750 MB. And then it just boots. Unless your PC only has a CD drive - or a non-Atom microprocessor, which I haven't tried this on.
Another is the full Nero Burning ROM, I hear, from version 7 up maybe. Apparently a disc labelled "CD" is displayed in the burning dialog and you can alter it to "DVD" if you have the hardware.
I didn't try the Moblin suggestion of "ISO Recorder". But their documentation throughout says to put it on a "CD" and it ain't going. Unless it's an outsize CD, that is.
I suppose it would fit on an 8 cm small DVD (you may be wondering if I made up those: I didn't), but I'm not sure there's a strong reason to do that except for having an 8 cm DVD be good for something. Is anyone making PCs with 8 cm-only disc drives? The Japanese, maybe.
For that matter, SystemRescueCD and some other distros are currently inside the size of an 8 cm CD. Well, you can fit it in a shirt pocket or somewhere then...
Oh, and using Moblin? Baffling. I did well with the Minesweeper game but that's about the only time I understood what I was doing. Couldn't even find a "log out" or "shut down". Finally ran "shutdown -h now" in a terminal, I think. Plenty other distro desktops have a clickable power button or something, but I didn't find this one. Fans apparently love Moblin's useability; I wanted a comprehensive manual... a little. For the time being, I think I'll be using Linux for "hacking" my own computers (partimage and such) and Windows for accessibility support. But my furcatalogue, or collected album of forks (a loose-leaf binder of Linux discs in envelopes), is swelled, anyway.
Edit: fix "clickable poker button". I guess some online casino will release its own distro sometime, that boots straight to the online gaming table.. Maybe as "Linux: Because It's Always a Gamble".
Last edited by Robert Carnegie; 12-03-2009 at 08:58 PM.
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