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Old 11-05-2012, 04:52 PM   #1
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Latops without os

I am thinking of buying a Lenovo T420 but don't want Windows. (I am not entirely against Windows, but I have it on a desktop and don't want to pay for it on the laptop as well. Especially I don't want 8.)

There was a time a few weeks ago when ebuyer (for example) was selling laptops without an os, but they seem to have disappeared.

I will put ubuntu 12.04 on the laptop in the short term (it's familiar) and something less mainstream when I have time.

Does anyone know of a uk vendor selling lenovo without an os?

Or, if I really have to have windows 7, could there be any problem with dual booting? I've dual booted ubuntu in the past with xp and vista, but not 7.

Thanks ...
Old 11-06-2012, 01:52 AM   #2
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My HP notebook came with Windows 7 and I've dual booted it without much effort. (HP needs some creative re-partitioning because they use all four partitions without an extended partition)
There is always some risk when dual booting, but I've never had any issues myself.
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You can buy Lenovo laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled here:

But they haven't got the T420, and it's 10.10 that's installed, pity.

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Old 11-06-2012, 04:19 PM   #5
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Most Linux installers will give you the option to wipe the existing operating system and use the whole drive, therefore the question of whether or not Windows is preinstalled shouldn't be relevant.

If you comparison shop you'll see your assumption that "Windows computers cost more than Linux computers" is not always accurate, sometimes they are cheaper with Windows so just shop for the best deal and use whatever operating system you like in the end.
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It's maybe hard to swallow, but it's quite possible that M$ does not make significant profit on the sale of Windows. I think the real profit is in getting people to buy MSOffice and other pricey applications.

What's really relevant is that---while you **might** find something with no OS installed--you are not likely to save money.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:31 PM   #7
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That's interesting. Thanks to you all. Very counterintuitive about M$.

I'm glad to hear about linuxemporium.

I guess I'll go ahead with the 420 and wipe the 7. I'll want to use all the HDD.

Thanks again.
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I don't know about the UK, but where I live some vendors can sell you the NB without Windows if you ask. But don't expect a significant discount!
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I'd recommend dual booting. After $500 worth of labour you get $10 off for not having windows, which is a poor deal. Also, even a piece of bloatware like vista can even be useful, e.g.

1. Turning on the wifi when some %@$! at your laptop turns it off.
2. Running that crazy license ridden software wine barfs on (e.g. Garmin updates).
3. Updating your bios.
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3. Updating your bios.
Updating a BIOS from any OS more complex than DOS is just asking for problems. Most newer systems have update tools built into the BIOS. For example, put the file in the root directory of a usb stick, turn on the system and hit ALT+F2 for many systems with an Award BIOS.


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