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Old 01-28-2004, 01:53 AM   #1
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I cannot use card pcmcia xircom creditcard ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56 on redhat 8.0


I cannot use card pcmcia xircom creditcard ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56 on redhat 8.0. My notebook is NEC Versa Premium. How shoud I do?

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Old 01-28-2004, 04:47 AM   #2
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ok, there are a couple of them , do you have a model number or any other details? have you tried loading it and received an error? insmod? looked at dmesg? looked at lsmod?

also, it is poor etiquette to post the same question in more than one forum, don't do that.
 
Old 01-28-2004, 11:29 AM   #3
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I'm sorry for my posts. I'm newbie for linux. My PCMCIA cards is model No. CEM56-100. I have try to load by network device control in KDE result is cannot activate PCMCIA card. Can you explain me how to use insmod dmesg and lsmod? Thank you for your reply.
 
Old 01-30-2004, 04:42 PM   #4
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Its an old-type pcmcia card, you can't insmod or modprobe the modules by hand, cardmgr has to do that for you.

pcmcia debugging comes with fun built in. When you pop in the card you should hear some beeps. The first will be pcmcia seeing something is there at all. The second will be either a loud bonk meaning it can't load a driver for the card, or an identical to the first beep that it loaded a driver.

Of course... it might not beep at all which either means your system speaker is hosed or its not seeing the pcmcia bus at all.

What're you getting? beep and a bonk?

Sounds silly, but it works....

Also, to get the exact info on the card, try this command, as root... okay, you used the words Newbie and KDE, so here's a step by step:

Open a Konsole, should be on the bar, looks like a little monitor and a seashell.

su -
(type in root's password) The "-" part means that you're effectively re-logging in as root, "su" by itself works just fine, but you keep some of the attributes of who you're su'ing from. Like the user PATH, which is meaningless now, but as you go its less fun when it happens.

/sbin/cardctl ident

This is going to get the identification info straight off of the card, so we can ignore the model numbers and goop printed on it, which may be lies anyway. Post that ident line here.

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 02-02-2004, 07:15 AM   #5
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Very Thank for your answer I will try later and I'm very sorry for my post.
 
Old 02-02-2004, 07:50 AM   #6
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I pop my pcmcia card I do not hear beep and bonk. The result of command
"/sbin/cardctl ident" is "no pcmcia driver in /proc/device". How should I do later? Thank for answer.
 
Old 02-02-2004, 08:20 AM   #7
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Good, I was wondering why a normal old xircom wasn't working... its fine, pcmcia is off. You have the cardctl binary so I assume the package is installed, let's just hope that its not getting fired up at boot. You didn't mention what distro, so lemme guess RH/Mandrake/SuSe-ish:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start

Usually symlinked down to:

/etc/init.d/pcmcia start

If there's a "command not found" festival, check through your GUI configurator to try and make pcmcia a default service.

If it seems to work, but cardctl ident still doesn't give any info, let's figure out why support for the bridge isn't getting loaded:

/sbin/lspci

And post that here.

And then also take a look at "dmesg" its the kernel ring buffer, it'll strew past you what the kernel loaded support for as it loaded it. The NEC model you have may have a weird bridge.

Cheers,

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Old 02-02-2004, 08:54 AM   #8
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I use linuxTLE 5.0 (Thai linux it's come from Redhat8.0).I use your command and result show many lines and I cannot type the result to you Can you tell me how to copy result lines to gedit.(I use gedit to open doc file.) Sorry I'm not good in english I'm Thai. Very thank for answer.
 
Old 02-03-2004, 07:07 AM   #9
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Highlight the text with the mouse, that is all it takes to put the text into the buffer. In Windows this is done by highlighting the text and pressing: ctrl+c, but under Linux you just have to highlight the text.

To paste the text into something, you need to either click the middle mouse button if your mouse has 3 buttons, or if you only have a mouse with 2 buttons, click both at once. That should paste highlighted text. Its a little hard to get used to at first, but after a while you will find it must faster then windows.

Did the many lines of result text from the pcmcia start command look like errors?

To get as much information as possible, post back with the output of the pcmcia start command and:

/sbin/lspci

And also, the exact model of NEC Versa.

Good luck,

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 02-04-2004, 08:04 AM   #10
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Thank you for help.I follow command the result show below.

[root@linuxtle239 root]# /etc/init.d/pcmcia start
Starting PCMCIA services: modulesmodprobe: Can't locate module pcmcia_core.o
modprobe: Can't locate module yenta_socket.o
modprobe: Can't locate module ds.o
cardmgr.

[root@linuxtle239 root]# /sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630 Host (rev 31)
00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C503/5513
00:01.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7001 USB Controller (rev 07)
00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02)
00:01.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Intel 537 [56k Winmodem] (rev a0)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS 530 Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:08.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01)
00:08.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS630 GUI Accelerator+3D (rev 31)

[root@linuxtle239 root]# /sbin/cardctl ident
no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices

I use NEC Versa Premium Model 7521N

Very Thank for your help.
 
Old 02-04-2004, 12:51 PM   #11
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Okay, good, alright, nothing weird about the laptop!

All of the modules that the kernel cannot find are the pcmcia modules. I have no idea how those did not get installed... especially yenta_socket.o as that is normally compiled with any default kernel.

If you still have the installation CDs, look for a package on them something like pcmcia-modules, or pcmcia-cs or something along those lines and install that. I could normally be more help, but I'm not familiar with ThaiLinux, (and not really familiar with RedHat 8.0 either ), but the modules not being loaded is odd, getting them on there may be a small hastle.

Basically, your installation was incomplete, there are no pcmcia drivers on the machine right now.

Post back when you get stuck.

Luck,

Finegan
 
  


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