HP2133 Mini-Note
I have ordered an HP 2133 Mini-Note. It comes preinstalled with Vista, but I plan to wipe it and install Linux. It is an ultra portable, so I expect it will be a bit slower than normal laptops from what I've read. Here is a link to the model I ordered.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...5-3704511.html I'm thinking about installing OpenSuse on it, but I'm not sure. Some of the lower models come with Suse preinstalled. The only other distro I've seen that people have tried on this kind of laptop is Ubuntu. I've looked for a distro that I could use e17 with, but I have never tried the ones I found and I'm not sure what kind of problems I will have with drivers. Does anyone have any experience with Linux on this laptop? Do you have any suggestions? |
E17 is a DTE - will work on anything, but Ubuntu has probably the easiest install as well as an elbuntu project.
Cannot see anything in the mini-note which will cause strife. Make your backup and have fun. |
Thank you for the reply.
When I received the machine last night, I went ahead and tried OpenSuse on it and it worked just fine. The only problem I had was with the video. But I was able to find the driver at VIA, here: http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action After that, everything seemed to work great! So I am happily running OpenSuse on my new mini-note now. |
Very cool - please make an HCL entry for the mini note - there currently isn't one.
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Trizon could you please tell me how you installed openSUSE on it and what version?
I have it installed but the wireless drivers don't work nor can I adjust the brighness of the screen, also the CPU always seems to stay at 100% doesn't step down when load is low. Please post a guide, also do you have a external DVD rom drive that you booted off? |
Actually, I better check the cpu usage because I didn't do that. So I'm not sure if it is running at 100% all the time. Also, I haven't tested wireless on it yet, so it may not work either. I've been using a wire.
I did read on the Ubuntu forums that people had trouble installing wireless on it, but eventually got it to work with ndiswrapper. I have not worked on this yet in OpenSuse. I am running OpenSuse 10.3. I did use an external DVD drive to install from. I just borrowed it from my company for a night. I connected it with USB. |
I can now confirm that my cpu is not running at 100% utilization all the time. It is running just fine. I am monitoring this with the "top" command from the shell. I just thought I would post an update.
I have not tried wireless yet. |
VIA Chrome 9 drivers not working
Which drivers did you download from the VIA site, I have been unable to get the one I downloaded to work at all, everytime I install them Xorg fails to start at all? Is there any special trick you had to do to get them to work?
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Curious. I have an HP2133 and I wiped it and installed openSUSE 10.3. Display worked out of the box for me. Installation detected it as a 17" 5:4 display (1280x764) at 65535 colors. I changed it to the lowest screen size, 12", and bumped the colors up to 16 million. It worked without problems.
However, I can confirm that wireless isn't working. Syslog is saying that it cannot find a firmware file. Since I am kinda old-fashioned, I am using the traditional ifup method. Code:
soma:/etc/sysconfig/network # tail /var/log/messages Code:
soma:~ # cat /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-eth0 |
Wireless work 100% with ndiswrapper!
Just get the drivers from the HP page, cabextract to get to the .inf file and install. Will not work with WPA in a hidden mode (well it does but you need to mess about). Change it to WPA2 and you will be fine. Wireless does not connect first time but 2nd/3rd attempt will connect and work very well. BTW i'm using openSUSE 11. |
Thanks. ndiswrapper worked, although I had some quirks getting it to work.
I hope this helps anyone else with similar problems. |
openSUSE wireless
To get the wireless working under openSUSE 10.3 you can down load a RPM with the correct driver from the openSUSE build service http://software.opensuse.org/search and do a search for "compat-wireless." Once you have the appropriate package installed, then as root run the command '/usr/sbin/b43load b43' If the wireless does not turn on after that you can run the command '/usr/sbin/b43enable' That should get you up and running with wireless.
To make the correct driver load when the computer boots create a loader script: Code:
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Hi there Trizon, i have bought the same thing the HP2133 and i have SUSE Linux also but i have a problem with the camera, i tried to install the driver you mentioned on your post, but it still does not work. I have never used Linux before and i need some help being able to install this thing correctly. Please give me as much as information how you installed it in your as you can.
Thanks Artan |
Hello there Everyone,
My name is Artan, i am from Switzerland and i have bought HP 2133 mini Pc a week ago and it had SUSE, Linux version 10 pre loaded and i had no recovery Cd come with, i don't know if that is normal.. Also at the moment everything works fine, except the Camera(VGA) does not work and also i tried to download the driver that Trizon mentioned in his post but honestly i did open somefiles and i have no clue how to figure this thing out and check if the VGA has been fixed and see if it works. How do i check if the CPU is runnig 100 % by the way, i have no idea how is that done also. I am sorry i am asking too many questions but i guess i am dumb when it comes to LINUX. Also is it worth using Linux and having to learn everything one by one, or should i try to download XP on it. Please let me know all the info that can help me out with this matter. |
Afternoon all.
I've had my Mini-Note for over a month now except I was using OzOS on it. I just recently installed openSUSE when 11.0 came out. My CPU does scale, but I had to add this to the kernel line in the /boot/grub/menu.lst Code:
acpi_osi="!Windows 2006" As noted, the wireless works with Ndiswrapper. There are several versions of the Broadcom chips used so it can be tricky to figure out which one is needed. Luckily mine just uses the one from hp/Compaq. artanberisha2004, it is normal not to get recovery CDs with it, but if you contact hp they will send them to you. Now maybe someone can help me. I downloaded the patches for the openSUSE 11.0 RC Via Chrome9 drivers. They applied, compiled and loaded. The AGP will load at boot and if I modprobe the Chrome9 driver it will load and indicates that the drm module uses it. However, I still can't get direct rendering to work. When I run sax2 it still returns a Vesa board not the Chrome9 HC. The hardware info correctly detects the Chrome9 HC. If I try to use "via" for the driver in my xorg.conf it won't start X. Running GLXgears give me about 175 FPS. glxinfo indicates Mesa is doing indirect rendering but no direct rendering is enabled. The driver patch only comes with instructions on how to build the modules for the kernel. Nothing about using them. It just says stick them in /lib/modules... and it will load at boot time. |
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as this is your first linux experiance I would suggest to learn some things about linux via a podcast from Chess Griffin called the linuxreality.com He explans a lot in an easy way. |
Amazon.com sells the 2133 with Vista preloaded and with Suse preinstalled it sells for $200 less, so why would someone buy the Vista edition?
When I saw this device at Amazon I became excited immediately, but I am worried about some user written reviews. They state that the machine is slow (in Vista?), but I am more worried about it is said that the temperature of the case got very high. Is that true? Is there also something known about battery life when running Linux? jlinkels |
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Oh, and one last reason, availability. I couldn't find a SLED version in stock when I bought mine. I'm glad I didn't wait. Quote:
Battery life? 3-4 hours with a 6 cell battery (which is not available with the SLED version unless you buy one after you have the computer). As far as speed, for day-to-day use I couldn't be happier. I don't run many of my models in R on it, I reserve that for my 64bit Athlon or work Core-2 Duo, this machine is my lightweight, web, e-mail, word processing, and occasional coding machine. I didn't buy it with delusions of doing heavy lifting, it's not let me down. |
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I am happy to hear that heat and speed problems are not like stated in those user reviews. jlinkels |
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There has been discussion on some of the mini-note forums about the fact that the Aluminum case also acts as a heat sink for the computer rather than plastic which holds the heat in. That said, I have no problems using it on my lap while wearing shorts, I'm suspecting the 6-cell battery helps a bit since it lessens the contact patch with my legs. But I'd also like to think that it runs cooler with Linux than Vista since I can turn things off that aren't necessary processes on a little laptop. I'd have to say that reading reviews I felt the same way you did but bought it anyway. It might be slower than my old 1.8ghz Sempron was in my Acer for day-to-day stuff but not enough that it bothers me at all. I didn't buy it expecting Core2 Duo performance so I've not been disappointed with it. I guess, just keep your expectations reasonable and you probably won't be disappointed is what I'm saying. |
help with VIA Driver
I have just purchased one of the hp 2133, but I am very linux dumb. I need help to get the VIA driver working. When I went to the supplied URL the only Opensuse 11 driver they had was for the Opensuse 11 RC1 which I think as of now its full release. Any help on getting this working would be very much appciated.
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The patches for OpenSUSE11 RC1 that Via released don't support the hardware in this machine. See the thread I posted earlier on MiniNoteUser.com. You can compile the kernel modules but they won't do you much good of anything. Ubuntu it seems is the only supported Linux by Via right now other than SLED10 and even at that the drivers aren't 100% for this hardware. On another note, I just made this mod removing the grille behind the exhaust grille. It does seem to have cooled it down by about 10*C overall. I'd already voided the warranty by opening it up and putting thermal past on the heat sink and processor. I've not removed the grilles from the intakes, but seeing how the heat sink is set up with the exhaust fan it seems like the most good will come from just removing the exhaust side anyway. Fan's quieter too now... |
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OK you say get it from CVS. OK, dumb question. What is CVS and, where do I get it, and how do I do it?
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Technically it's SVN (subversion) which is a replacement for CVS (concurrent versioning system). The openChrome project has directions here: http://www.openchrome.org/trac You'll need to install subversion, I prefer to just use the CLI most of the time and to download and compile the software you'll need to use it. So you're gonna have to roll up your sleeves and get dirty in the CLI, if you want to stop using the VESA driver and use openChrome. In my experience none of the prebuilt packages for OpenSUSE worked for the 2133. You'll also need the development packages for xorg, gcc and make to compile the driver. So open Yast and then go to software management and search for these packages.
Accept the dependencies that come with those packages and install them. Then follow the directions from the openChrome website: http://www.openchrome.org/trac You'll be using the CLI here. Code:
# svn co http://svn.openchrome.org/svn/trunk openchrome Code:
### June 5, 2008, M. S. Zick, Development Status: "Works for me." *### Code:
# init 3 Hopefully that helps, at least somewhat. |
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Now thats some information I can use. Oh I am ready to get my hands dirty I just need to know where to dig and how and I think I can get it going. Not going to mess with it over the weekend. I will be doing this first thing Monday and will let you know my status. Other than Video it works pretty good. I like the box and I like the Opensuse much better than Sled10. Thanks again. I think I found some saving grace when it comes to Linux
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I tried this and this is what I got. It was when I issued the maKE COMMAND. any ideals
via_3d.c:348: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:348: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:351: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:351: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:351: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:352: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:352: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:352: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:353: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:353: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:353: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:355: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:355: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:355: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:356: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:356: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:356: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:359: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:359: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:359: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:360: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:360: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:360: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:361: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:361: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:361: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:363: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:363: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:363: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token via_3d.c:364: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘buf’ via_3d.c:364: error: ‘ViaCommandBuffer’ has no member named ‘pos’ via_3d.c:364: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token |
No errors checking out from SVN?
Post the output from when you run autgen.sh. |
hp 2133
here is the output for ./autogen.sh
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linux-prbf:~/openchrome # ./autogen.sh |
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I don't know. There must be something missing that's not installed. My system already had compilers installed, etc. so it's hard for me to say exactly what's needed for this. I'm just an amateur that plays a Linux user. ;) |
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Well I thought I did, I will go back and check. My one main issue really is to get the VGA port back working. When I got the box it had SLED but I did not like sled so I decided to put opensuse. Will putting the openchrome driver on the box get the VGA port up and going again or will I have to do something else?
Thanks for all the advise and help on this issue. |
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Honestly, if you want a good working VGA out install Ubuntu 0804 or a derivative, use the Via Chrome9 driver and I can give you the xorg.conf file. I've used it myself for a projector. As much as I like openSUSE the community support behind Ubuntu is much better. Not to mention I need a good computer for presentations. The Via driver has much better support (IMO) for the hardware than OpenChrome does. I was only able to clone the output with OpenChrome, with the official Via driver, flawed as it may be, I get native resolution on my monitor and 1024x768 on the projector. |
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Heck I will try it. I was reading around and I kept on seeing tons of Umbunto refs for these like thats what most guys seems to be using. Did you have any trouble with the wireless? Do you have any good list of repositories for Umbunto? I will play around with it today and see what I can do.
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Can you get the xorg file?
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The xorg file that I use -> http://morethan.org/mini-note/xorg.mini.gz this is not the one supplied by the Ubuntu wiki. |
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This is the strange thing
I do the instructions, word for word. AFter I do it the LCD screen starts to scroll but the VGA port looks just fine. I can still log in and once I log in the LCD on the laptop comes up but it looks like crap and the VGA still works. Any ideals. The only part I cannot find or get to replace on the menu.ls file is the xforcevesa I still add the line. |
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If so you don't need the xforcevesa statement. Beyond that, no I don't have any ideas. |
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I must be missing something. Because no matter what I do the Video sucks on the LCD. When I clone it out to a external monitor is looks OK I think. I just do not know what I am doing wrong. about to blow it away and try sled 10 back on it. heck I would be happy with trying to know how to install openchrome driver. Any help on this matter I do very much apprciate
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The only thought I had somewhat recently, did you install the Beta Via Chrome9 driver and use the xorg file I supplied? Or did you use the stable driver?
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To be honest, I think I did try both. Got the same effect. Which one did you do?
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I used the Beta driver. |
Hello, I also have an hp 2133 with suse 10 preinstalled and for my work I need windows but I don't want to delete linux.
I have installed windows/suse before but the problem with this notebook is that it does not have a cd drive and I can only boot from hardrive or ethernet, also it has an sata hd which I don't know if can be a problem. Could anyone give me some ideas on how to install windows (and keep suse)? thanks a lot,! |
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I'd try the various Windows forums here: http://www.hp2133guide.com/forums/index.php Seems like someone has some hints for installing XP from a USB drive or something of the sort there. |
sorry if I wasn't clear enough, It's not about installing winxp, it's about getting help to boot the system to install whatever s.o., given the particular situation that I have no cd drive and can only boot from hd or lan
but thanks anyway for the link. |
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I'm still not sure what it is you're asking though... |
<quot=paula123>Could anyone give me some ideas on how to install windows (and keep suse)? </quote>
<quote=paula123>sorry if I wasn't clear enough, It's not about installing winxp, it's about getting help to boot the system to install whatever</quote> OK - so: "help me install windows" is not about installing windows... fine. Presumably you can also boot from an external drive ... like a usb cd-drive? Most *nixes have a net install option - you do need to get a net-install image on your HDD, and clear some space, but you use the ethernet then. "Whatever" else gets installed over the net from the OpenSUSE repos. To install windows? In a machine not designed for installs? you ask your work sysadmin for a Windows VM image. OR - You make some free space on the HDD, then take it to a MS Cert Engineer and hire that worthy to install windows - specifying: "I want XP in the free space please." Make sure you bill your work - since they require specific OS, surely it's their job to see that you get it. What do you "need" windows for? |
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