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Old 02-22-2019, 04:23 PM   #1
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Question HP Pavilion settings for running Kali Linux 2018.4 in Virtual Machine


Greetings,

I have an HP Pavilion laptop I am running Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS as my main OS. I have installed Kali Linux 2018.4 in a Virtual Machine.

For some reason, whenever I try to run the Virtual Machine my computer runs extremely slow. I gave Kali 50GB of space and have the RAM set to 4GB. I tried giving it more RAM, but it wouldn’t let me.

Are there some settings that I should maybe set to fix this? I can’t find anything that looks wrong.

I'd appreciate some help.

Thanks.
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:35 PM   #2
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What model number is the HP?

How much total RAM is installed in the HP

Which Virtualization software are you running i.e VMware, VirtualBox etc.
 
Old 02-22-2019, 09:17 PM   #3
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System Information
Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
Product Name: HP Pavilion 17 Notebook PC
Version: 0976110000405E00000620180
Serial Number: 6CC4021291
UUID: 34444335-3230-3231-3931-A01D48D72D83
Wake-up Type: Power Switch
SKU Number: F9L89UAR#ABA
Family: 103C_5335KV G=N L=CON B=HP S=PAV

RAM: 8GB

VMWare Workstation 15 Player
 
Old 02-23-2019, 01:05 AM   #4
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that model is from 2015 and has a decent intel processor, however there might be some problems with hybrid graphics. maybe show us the output of
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d|display'
you could also try the same with virtualbox to see if it makes any difference.

in any case, on the host, enter
Code:
top
in a terminal, maximise, leave open, then reproduce the problem.
what is eating your resources?
is it mostly memory consumption, disk io, CPU?
 
Old 02-23-2019, 03:22 AM   #5
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Based on it's version number, here are the specs from HP. One of my biggest beefs when shopping for a laptop for "others", while trying to stay within their spending range is HP's implementation of cheap HDD. Typically 5400 rpm, which is what this one has. You have to spend a good buck on an HP to get a 7200 rpm drive, many other OEM will use a better quality 7200 rpm drive in much lower end models.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 03:08 PM   #6
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Here are the results from the first line:
Code:
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8330]
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Kabini [Radeon HD 8330]
	Kernel driver in use: radeon
	Kernel modules: radeon, amdgpu
00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini HDMI/DP Audio
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Kabini HDMI/DP Audio
Attached is the screenshot of the results from running "top".
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Old 02-25-2019, 12:07 AM   #7
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OK, no hybrid graphics afaics (i suppose you entered the command exactly as specified; it's preferable to include that in your output).
i'm not sure at all with amd graphics, but isn't it advisable to use amdgpu instead of radeon?
but i would have to search for that just as much as you, so.

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Attached is the screenshot of the results from running "top".
yes very nice, but my instructions were clear:
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in any case, on the host, enter
Code:
top
in a terminal, maximise, leave open, then reproduce the problem.
what is eating your resources?
is it mostly memory consumption, disk io, CPU?
a static screenshot does not help here.
even so, the case looks pretty obvious to me.
 
Old 02-25-2019, 07:57 AM   #8
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Yes, I was wondering why it was using Radeon instead of AMD myself. I did a fresh install of Ubuntu after formatting the hard drive, so it should have detected I had an AMD video card. I'll have to look into that.

I realized the static screenshot wasn't going to be much help, but I was hoping someone would see something I missed on it.

Either way, thanks for the help, I'll have to do some research on the differences between Radeon and AMD drivers.
 
Old 02-25-2019, 12:37 PM   #9
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I realized the static screenshot wasn't going to be much help, but I was hoping someone would see something I missed on it.
are you not seeing the glaring 120% CPU usage for vmware???

i'm not even sure to which extent this can be mitigated with a better gpu driver. probably doesn't make a difference.
 
Old 02-25-2019, 03:33 PM   #10
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Yes, I saw that VMWare was dominating the CPU usage. I just don't know what to do about it. I'm going to look into it some more. I'm also going to look into Virtual Box to see if that will work for me as well.
 
Old 02-26-2019, 12:48 AM   #11
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I just don't know what to do about it.
virtualisation is expensive.
kali is not exactly a lightweight linux distro (gnome desktop and all), and of course it depends on what you do with it when it's running.
and then it depends on your host hardware.
i have a ubuntu 18.04 vm (uses the gnome desktop, like kali), and it regularly makes my 2x2 processors @ 3.7GHz (intel i3) run hot, without actually doing anything with it.
so what's your hardware?

of course some tweaking might be possible; you should check your vmware documentation.
 
Old 02-26-2019, 02:17 PM   #12
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I'm using the Kali Linux because I'm taking a class on Ethical Hacking and Penetration Testing. I'd prefer to have my own installation of the OS where I can keep notes and such than to run the Virtual classroom environment where I can't.

From what I can tell, it is just too much for my computer to handle. This is my first time using a virtual machine though, so I will look into the settings to see if there is anything I can "tweak" to make it run better.

My computer has an Intel i7 with 8GB of RAM. It's been a great computer since I got it. Lately though it doesn't boot up right away, I have to power cycle it at start up until the video card kicks in. Otherwise it will boot, but I won't have any display. I'm sure that is part of the problem, but once it is up and running it works fine for everything else.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 12:47 AM   #13
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From what I can tell, it is just too much for my computer to handle.
that would be my guess, too.
and btw, if it is then its due to the GNOME desktop and not due to kali itself.
essentially you don't even need a gui for most pentesting tools, maybe there's a kali CLI-only install?
or maybe backbox instead (heard about that on a podcast; ubuntu-based but lightweight desktop).

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My computer has an Intel i7 with 8GB of RAM. It's been a great computer since I got it. Lately though it doesn't boot up right away, I have to power cycle it at start up until the video card kicks in. Otherwise it will boot, but I won't have any display.
sounds like a topic for a new thread.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 01:18 AM   #14
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you might want to give less memory and cpu to the VM. That will make your computer faster, but probably the VM will be slower (or useless).
 
  


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