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Old 05-14-2018, 09:56 AM   #1
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Desktop freezes while booting Ubuntu/lubuntu from stick, Lenovo Ideapad 300s|11br, Celeron N3050 2Gb ram.


Hello. I have a little notebook running win10 with 2gb ram and 32gb emmc disk.

Iīd like try and to install a Linux distribution so I downloaded isos for ubuntu 18.04/16.04 LTS as well as lubuntu 16.04/18.04. I have used both rufus and Universal USB installer.

I managed to change the BIOS configuration, so the system loads the boot loader screen from the pendrive.

After choosing "try without installing" the system loads a few errors (ACPI region handler not found) then loads up the desktop screen. I can move the mouse pointer but the system crashes soon after (the screen freezes). After a few minutes it goes all black then reloads the desktop screen and freezes again. Behavior is the same with all the isos.

Thanks in advance.
 
Old 05-14-2018, 10:03 AM   #2
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(ACPI region handler not found)

https://www.google.com/search?client....0.7-r6zsDC_54

I see it is a buggy situation, have to tried a different disto to see if that is a persistent issue with your laptop, or a distro contained issue?
 
Old 05-14-2018, 10:11 AM   #3
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Thanks for your reply. When I googled the ACPI error most people could boot normally, so I was expecting it was something else. Any suggestions on other distros to try?
 
Old 05-14-2018, 10:54 AM   #4
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Thanks for your reply. When I googled the ACPI error most people could boot normally, so I was expecting it was something else. Any suggestions on other distros to try?
they're all free take your pick.
If you want to learn something. Use Slackware, if you just want to use Linux, pick something else.
 
Old 05-14-2018, 10:34 PM   #5
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I got puppylinux to boot successfully. Everything went ok: desktop ok, mouse ok, sound ok, wan ok, software ok.

However all the other isos I tried crush right after the first selection screen (I tried openSuse and CentOS 7). Error ACPI doesnt show for them.

Any ideas or distros to try? (I didnīt understand how to load slackware to my stick.

Thanks!
 
Old 05-15-2018, 12:35 AM   #6
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I have a little notebook running win10 with 2gb ram and 32gb emmc disk.
to continue discussing this in a meaningful manner, you need to provide some info about this:
manufacturer and model, spec sheet.
 
Old 05-15-2018, 07:50 AM   #7
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Sounds like you definitely got a buggy box. As suggested what’s your hardware and BIOS settings?
 
Old 05-15-2018, 08:24 AM   #8
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My guess is that you are having GPU hangs based on a driver bug and the ACPI error/warning has nothing to do with it. GPU hangs cause all sorts of problems. Often, the screen will freeze, but you will still be able to move the mouse pointer around.

I have found that there have been some regressions with newer Linux kernels in some GPU drivers. According to distrowatch, the latest Puppylinux uses the 4.9 kernel version. Ubuntu 18.04 uses kernel 4.15.

To get to the root of the problem, you should look at what GPU the laptop is using. You should also boot into Puppylinux and check what driver is being used:

Code:
lsmod | grep video
I have one laptop using the i915 driver that suffers video glitches with Kernel versions 4.16 and higher. I have another laptop with the amdgpu driver that suffers GPU hangs that went away when I upgraded from kernel 4.15 to 4.17. Sometimes drivers have regressions, sometimes bugs get fixed. It is impossible to know what will work until you search for open bugs and their fixes and workarounds.
 
Old 05-15-2018, 07:12 PM   #9
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I would try Knoppix. If you have a working linux system, you can use 'dd' to make the USB stick.
Code:
$ dd if=knoppix.iso of=dev/sdb bs=2048 conv=sync
where /dev/sdb is your USB drive. Otherwise, you'll need to use a Windows program.
 
Old 05-19-2018, 07:20 PM   #10
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Hi all, I had a busy week and couldnīt work on my notebook

Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
to continue discussing this in a meaningful manner, you need to provide some info about this:
manufacturer and model, spec sheet.
I posted the model in the title: Lenovo Ideapad 300s-11|BR with Celeron N3050 processor and 2 Gb ram. BIOS is C8EC27WW(v5.5). HD Samsung BGND3R

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My guess is that you are having GPU hangs based on a driver bug and the ACPI error/warning has nothing to do with it. GPU hangs cause all sorts of problems. Often, the screen will freeze, but you will still be able to move the mouse pointer around.

I have found that there have been some regressions with newer Linux kernels in some GPU drivers. According to distrowatch, the latest Puppylinux uses the 4.9 kernel version. Ubuntu 18.04 uses kernel 4.15.

To get to the root of the problem, you should look at what GPU the laptop is using. You should also boot into Puppylinux and check what driver is being used:

Code:
lsmod | grep video
I have one laptop using the i915 driver that suffers video glitches with Kernel versions 4.16 and higher. I have another laptop with the amdgpu driver that suffers GPU hangs that went away when I upgraded from kernel 4.15 to 4.17. Sometimes drivers have regressions, sometimes bugs get fixed. It is impossible to know what will work until you search for open bugs and their fixes and workarounds.
I tried this command but did nothing.
 
Old 05-19-2018, 10:52 PM   #11
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The laptop you described uses Intel graphics I believe, you can check with:

lspci | grep VGA

From an internet search, I found this:

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=238885

They were focused on a different issue (battery not recognized), but indicated earlier versions of Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Manjaro were all installed successfully on this laptop. The Linux distributions mentioned all use an earlier version of the kernel than the one used in Ubuntu 18.04. My guess is that there has been a regression in the video driver, but it is just a guess.

The command "lsmod" should give you the list of all modules (drivers) current in use. Most likely, you are using i915 module for intel graphics.

If you really want to use Ubuntu, the easiest thing would be to download version 16.10, which has worked on your laptop according to that link I gave above.

If you really want to use Ubuntu version 18.04 and want to check if the kernel module is the problem, you can install a different version of the kernel, but that is not certain to work. In order to install a new version of the kernel, you can grab deb files of the kernel, modules, and headers. You will need to be able to install them, though. That is a problem if you can't boot. What I would do is boot a live-USB, and chroot to the installed Ubuntu 18.04 to install the latest upstream kernel. However, that would be a shot in the dark without knowing what bug (if any) it is and whether or not it has been fixed.
 
Old 05-24-2018, 01:26 AM   #12
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until op provides the info requested(*), i'll go a little further with a search.
it definitely seems possible to run some sort of GNU/Linux on that machine.
Sometimes it helps to go away from Ubuntu-based distros, maybe try something debian-based, or completely different.
Popular choices: https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major

(*)maybe you could expand m_yates command thusly:
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d|display'

Last edited by ondoho; 05-24-2018 at 01:27 AM.
 
Old 05-27-2018, 04:26 PM   #13
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It definitely sounds like a regression in the Intel video driver. I would report it as a bug.
 
Old 05-28-2018, 12:45 AM   #14
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it wouldn't be the first time that ubuntu doesn't care about supporting legacy hardware.

anyhow, it seems op is back to puppy...
 
Old 05-28-2018, 07:39 PM   #15
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I am back again. I redirected my efforts to get Manjaro running on live version.

m_yates:
Code:
lsmod | grep video
works in Manjaro: it returns 3 lines one of wich has the i915 driver

Code:
lspci | grep VGA
returns VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor

ondoho
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d|display'
Returnos the same VGA controller with Kernel driver in use i915 and Kernel modules i915

Right now I am having trouble installing Manjaro 17.1 from the live version (It loads everything just fine even wifi). I am stuck at the make partition phase, because I have 0 experience. I donīt care about the old OS (windows 10) but I donīt understand what to do to "make a partition"

I posted this on the Manjaro forum, I would be happy if anyone can give me some instructions on setting up the partition system. Thanks as always.

https://forum.manjaro.org/t/installa...ion-step/47762
I posted a few images there.

G.
 
  


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