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Old 08-14-2003, 01:34 PM   #1
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Unhappy beginners linmodem trouble


hi,

i am a total beginner at linux, just installed mandrake 9.1, (kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk ) on my compaq presario 715us laptop. the compaq has the following modem in it:

Conexant HSFi V92 MiniPCI modem

after much work , i was able to find out what i think is the chipset info (?) from a program called list modem, which i ran on windows. it gave me this:

NUMBER OF MODEMS FOUND = 1

MODEM #1:
PCI CONFIGURATION INFORMATION READ:
VENDOR ID : 14F1
DEVICE ID : 2F00
SUBVENDOR ID : 0E11
SUBDEVICE ID : 8D88
REVISION ID : 01

DEDUCED INFORMATION:
VENDOR NAME : CONEXANT
DEVICE NAME : HSF CHURCHILL DATA/FAX
SUBVENDOR NAME : COMPAQ -- COMPAQ.COM
MODEM TYPE : HSF
WINXP INBUILD SUPPORT : YES

SO. i gathered from the linmodem.org site that this chipset info is extremely important... but it doens't say much about what to do once you actually get the chipset info. basically, im just totally confused and i just want to be able to connect to the net.

here is what i have done so far: i followed some links to linuxant.com/ which supposedly has drivers for my modem. under the "HSF (Softmodem) driver" section, i clicked on "download." I selected mandrake, and then downlaoded the .rpm file that corrosponded to my mandrake kernel ( 2.4.21-0.13mdk hsflinmodem-5.03.27lnxtbeta03042700k2.4.21_0.13mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm )

then, in linux KDE i took the file from windows, put it on my KDE desktop, and clicked on it. it did something.

so, the install sectoin from linuxant.com said i could "access" it at /dev/ttySHCF0 ... but when i click on that file all that happens is that i get a dialogue asking which program i want to run it.

also, several of the commands that the install instructions at linuxant talk about dont seem to work. it may be that im doing it all wrong, as i just started using linux today, and can't tell a shell from a kernel.

um... it looks like the ttySHCFO thing dissapeared. that might be because i kept trying to reinstall the rpm. thing, and stuff.

anyone who can offer me any help as to what i am doing wrong, or what is going on, i would appreciate it a lot. im sorry if this is long, i was hoping that if i said everything, the nessisary things would be there for you.

brenton

Last edited by yarrgh; 08-17-2003 at 02:40 AM.
 
Old 08-15-2003, 05:28 AM   #2
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Can you give us your current position

i.e. is the rpm installed or not? This'll give me a starting point to work from. also, log in a s root and type:

ls /dev/ttySHCF*

to see if the device exists.

Cheers,

Jools
 
Old 08-15-2003, 09:47 PM   #3
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the rpm is installed... i think. it did something (i know not what) when i clicked on it, and then gave me some weird sort of error that didn't sound too bad, and i can't remember what it was, and then finished. when i click on it again, it says something like "everything is already installed".

when i entered ls /dev/ttySHCF* as root, i got a message saying that its not there or doesn't exist or something.

i really want to be able to connect to my internet with linux, so any suggestoins anyone has i REALLY apriciate!
 
Old 08-17-2003, 06:20 PM   #4
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im not sure if this might be relavant, but i should also mention that i seem to be having some sort of bug with regognising my kernel--some file missing. you can see my post in distros for more info.

im still looking for a solution. any ideas anyone?
 
Old 08-17-2003, 07:53 PM   #5
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its the same trouble i had...for me the beta hsflinmodem 5.03.27lnxBeta didnt work but i found out hsflinmodem5.03.27 for mandrake from a french site dont know which..it worked perfectly..kppp is not installed by default in mdk9.1..they have another stupid dialer...but they have it on the cd...once i installed kppp it correctly detected ttySHSF0...i think u should go for HSF n not HCF coz i also have a compaq pressario conexant chip ac lnk or something...and once its detected at ttyHSF0 or /dev/modem,its very easy from there :-)
 
Old 08-17-2003, 08:04 PM   #6
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re: just a few guesses

If the rpm thing goes on without any errors your kernel is probably fine, else u might have to "make" it at
cd /usr/src/your kernel/
make oldconfig
make dep
and then try using KPPP and see how it goes, using wvdial can be useful too, find it in the third cd if you have it or else download
it.

Now that is IF your rpm is giving error messages,

before doing that I would probably have a look at my
$su
$lsmod
and also /lib/modules/yourkernel/misc
if there are some modules, of the form *.o which is not listed in lsmod, I would insmod them by using
$insmod whatever.o
and then repeat the second paragraph........................

Hope that helps, although I am much need of help myself
If any gurus think i have tried my lot here please read my post on PCtel 2304 WT MDC and suggest something
Cheers
 
Old 08-17-2003, 09:34 PM   #7
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To check to see if the HSFLinmodem RPM is installed at a command prompt type rpm -qa | grep linmodem and see if the rpm shows up. If it shows up it should be installed.

Now I would install kppp if it isn't installed yet, kppp will be included in the package for KDE network I believe, this is where it is with Red Hat.

Now when you go to your menu look around and you should find kppp. You will run kppp and go to Setup --> Modem --> Query Modem now your modem should be detected, then go back and setup your ISP phone # and password and you should be able to get onto the internet.

If the RPM isn't installed, where you downloaded the RPM I would open up a terminal then:
cd /directory/where/rpm/is
rpm -ihv hsflinmodem.rpm where the hsflinmodem.rpm is the name of your modem rpm

This will install the rpm while showing you how it is progressing, you'll see what happens if you try that command with any rpm you are installing.

HTH
 
Old 08-18-2003, 01:00 AM   #8
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i think i may have found the source of my problem.

#1) directory 'linux' in /usr/src/ is completely missing! apparently that means also that i dont have a kernel? how exactly im running linux without a kernel im not sure of yet...

#2) modules/common.mak does not exist either. i know this because i found a different way to install it, from the shell, and it gave me an error when it needed to get info about the kernel in that file.

now, i already ran the KDE control panel and installed a bunch of different kernels, the security one, etc... and uninstalled them all again, so now i just have my normal kernel again... but still no /usr/src/linux/ and still no modules/common.mak
 
Old 08-18-2003, 01:06 AM   #9
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also, i have looked on my mandrake CD's for kppp, and also searched my menu extensivly... no kppp. anyone who knows how to get it (it HAS to be on the mandrake disc somewhere, right?) please tell me.

but that is not even important untill after i can figure out how to get the modem (or maybe even the kernel itself!) working

-b
 
Old 08-18-2003, 02:21 PM   #10
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great! i was able to find and install the source kernel, and then the linmodem seemed to install successfully. thanks e'eryone who helped!

however, i still can not find KPPP ANYWHERE, and i have NO IDEA how to connect to my dial up ISP.

even if i can't use KPPP, i just want to connect, thats all, i dotn care how.

-b
 
Old 08-19-2003, 02:57 AM   #11
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did u try typing
kppp
or
minicom
or
wvdial
or
gnopeppp
in the shell??
 
Old 08-20-2003, 02:36 PM   #12
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u can find kppp on ur CDs...just go to the Drake control center(as root)------------>software packages and in search type kppp.it will tell u to insert a particular CD and thats it...then at the run command type kppp...it should work..it worked for me!!
 
Old 08-20-2003, 05:33 PM   #13
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wow wow wow wow--da_zombie... let me get this straight. you have mandrake 9.1, and you searched "kppp" under the software packages and it fount it ?! if thats true, then it IS on the 9.1 discs, contrary to several reports i have already heard, (including my own experience)

im going back to linux, and try this whole thing over again.
 
Old 08-21-2003, 04:33 PM   #14
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i just confirmed,yes it is in the mdk 9.1 CDs,but it doesnt get installed by default...u have to do it like the way i told u......ennjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 08-21-2003, 07:02 PM   #15
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ah. i must have a messed up disc. i searched for it on the disc yet again, exactly as you told me and several other ways as well, and did not find it. i am going to get a different distro of linux... i have had it with mandrake. in a few weeks i'll have high speed access at college, and i can download as many distro's as i want.
 
  


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