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03-01-2023, 06:16 AM
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Hi mrmazda
would Biostar VA5505RF41 Radeon RX550, Graphiccard
be a better solution in your opinion?
Regards,
Jan
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03-01-2023, 09:47 AM
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Location: Wild West Wales, UK
Distribution: Linux Mint 22 MATE, Peppermint OS-Devuan, EndeavourOS
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Janvani,
Have you considered that a graphics card may well introduce additional fan noise?
The Biostar RX 500 appears to suffer from this particular problem according to feedback:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Biostar-128.../dp/B07V1R7XX8
The Ryzen 7 5700X only has a 65W rating and the standard cooler is generally more than adequate and it is quiet.
Assuming the Sharkoon case has decent airflow, I cannot see the point of additional expense on water cooling unless you plan to overclock like mad. In any event, my preference would be something like the be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU Cooler, rather than water cooling.
My Fractal Meshify C case uses 120mm and 140mm be quiet! Shadow Wings 2 PWM fans and they are totally silent.
In my opinion, you appear to be creating unnecessary problems for yourself, when cheaper, quieter alternatives are available.
It’s your money, so feel free to spend it as you wish.
Last edited by beachboy2; 03-01-2023 at 10:06 AM.
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03-01-2023, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Janvanl
would Biostar VA5505RF41 Radeon RX550, Graphiccard
be a better solution in your opinion?
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I don't have any opinions about any particular current discrete GPU models. I don't pay any attention to them. I don't shop them. I'm not a gamer. It looks like it is a gamer card that should be more than ample to suit your needs.
You seem to have changed your mind from needing a business computer to needing a gaming computer. Business computers don't need discrete GPUs to provide more potential failure points, consume more power, cost more to buy and run, and make more heat.
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03-01-2023, 02:41 PM
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Location: Hanover, Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Janvanl
Hi,
This one will have to run for the next 5 years.
1x be quiet! Silent Loop 2 120mm, Watercooler
1x Corsair DIMM 32 GB DDR4-3600 Kit, Memory
1x MSI GeForce GTX 1630 Ventus XS 4G OC, Graphiccard
1x Harddisk (SSD): Lexar NM620 512 GB, SSD PCIe 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.4, M.2 2280
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In most cases, a watercooler isn't required for a Ryzen 7. A top-down-cooler blows air onto memory modules too.
Suggestion: be quiet! Shadow Rock TF 2
DDR4-3600 is only required for OC. If you don't want OC DDR4-3200 is the best choice.
Suggestion: Corsair DIMM 32 GB DDR4-3200 Kit
Nvidia graphics cards & Linux is an annoying issue. Nvidia's proprietory driver is required to get full graphics card performance. There is no guarantee that this proprietory driver is available after a kernel update in five years.
Suggestion: AMD Radeon RX 6600 (8 GiB GDDR6 128-Bit; PCIe 4.0 x8; Slot: PCIe x16)
Processor & mainboard support PCIe Gen 4.0. Don't outbrake your system with a PCIe Gen 3.0 NVMe SSD.
Suggestion: Crucial CT500P5PSSD8 (500 GB SSD NVMe PCIe 4.0)
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03-01-2023, 05:37 PM
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Hi,
thanks for all the reactions.
For the cooler, this watercooler costs just EUR 5 more then a fancooler so i will leave it
The graphiccard is a compromise, what is desired, what i am prepared to pay and the performance.
The M2 SSD is more suitable (thanks Arnulf).
My old systen (which i am using now) has trouble shrinking a video with handbrake, i had
to pause the processing two times because the cpu got too hot. While there are still HD's
in it (no SSD) starting up takes time.
The selection now:
Processor
1x AMD Ryzen 7™ 5700X, Processor
Mainboard
1x MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS, Mainboard
Processorcooler
1x be quiet! Silent Loop 2 120mm, Watercooler
Memory
1x Corsair DIMM 32 GB DDR4-3200 Kit, Memory
Graphiccard
1x MSI Radeon RX 6500 XT Mech 2X OC 4G, Graphiccard
harddisc
2x Harddisc (SSD): Transcend SSD230S 2 TB
1x Harddisc (SSD): Corsair MP600 GS 500 GB, SSD
Case
1x Sharkoon M25-W, Tower-Case
Powersupply
1x be quiet! Pure Power 12M 650W, PC-Powersupply
No OS
Windows 11 pro for supportpurpose
Kubuntu 22.04 as main OS for work
Regards,
Jan
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07-06-2023, 04:18 PM
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#36
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Hi,
i have all the parts now.
The case i changed to a "be quiet! PURE BASE 500 White"
The powersuply to a "be quiet! Straight Power 11 750W"
The NVM SSD's to 2 x 1 TB WD Black SN850X with Coolingblock - I want to put this in a RAID 1 System too
The Sata SSD's to 2 x Crucial SSD with 2 Tb
I will (have to) install Windows 11 pro first - the NVM's will be partioned in 2 x 500 Gb Partitions
Windows seems able to define its partition to a raid 1 system.
When i install Linux i suppose that i will have to use "md" to build a raid 1 system with the second partition
on the NVM SSD's.
Am i right with that, i guess the motherboard does not have hardware-raid ?
Thanks for all help so far and for any comment on the last question.
Regards,
Jan
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07-06-2023, 04:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Janvanl
Am i right with that, i guess the motherboard does not have hardware-raid ?
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I don't think any consumer PC motherboard ever had hardware RAID. What some have is "BIOS" RAID, handled by dmraid software (device-mapper) in Linux. When BIOS RAID is employed, if the motherboard dies, the content on the RAID goes with it unless a motherboard replacement can be found that employs identical RAID firmware, generally impossible with a motherboard old enough to be out of warranty. In Linux, mdraid software is what you want to use.
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07-06-2023, 04:52 PM
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Thanks mrmazda,
i did read about this problem, i once installed mdraid and it does the job so i will use that.
I still have an exsys hardware raidcard laying here but the switch to chose Raid 0 or 1 came
apart when i tried to put it to raid one, re-assemble the switch is difficult for the parts are
about 0.2 mm (i will need the help from some one younger).
Regards,
Jan
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07-09-2023, 05:55 PM
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One extra question,
considering Windows, if i define the two NVM-SSD's in the bios as raid 1 will this
be of help if one of the NVM's starts degrading?
I plan to partition those NVM's in two 500 Gb partitions 1 for Windows 1 for linux.
So the "windows raid-array" exists of the first partition on both NVM's
and the "Linux raid-array" exists of the second partition on both NVM's.
After reading https://www.windowscentral.com/softw...-on-windows-11
I think i can mirror Windows also without the bios-raid.
I just need the raid 1 as a safety. On my old PC one of the HD's in a raid-1-array degraded (after 9 years!)
and i could copy everything from the "non-degraded" HD on a new HD and could work again within a couple of hours.
Regards,
Jan
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07-09-2023, 06:38 PM
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I have zero experience using RAID in conjunction with Windows. Were I to mix RAID with Windows and Linux together, I'd probably skip BIOS RAID, and use Windows RAID for Windows and MD RAID for Linux.
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07-10-2023, 05:40 PM
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Thanks mrmazda,
that is exactly what i plan to do.
For now i have a silly problem. Two little screws for assembling the NVM-SSD's are missing.
I hope that i can get these tomorrow from the electronic-shop nearby.
Regards,
Jan
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01-14-2024, 04:59 PM
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The PC is running
Hi
to almost close the thread, i am writing this on the new one, many thanks for all the good advise.
It took much time.
Just the second NVM on the motherboard is not (yet) recognised by the bios, i am in contact with
MSI on this.
Windows 11 pro and Kubuntu 22.04 start in about a minute, the temperature of the CPU stay way underneath 40 C.
Just 2 days before i should copy data from the old to the new PC i had a disc-crash on the old PC, could save the data, but
i bought an external HD for backups immediatly. An old Kubuntu 12.04 install that was still on the system did actually boot
and helped me save some (less important) data.
The "youngest" HD in my old PC is already about 8 years old, i will not put it in the new one, it was one of 2 identical
hd's that crashed.
Regards,
Jan
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