Why can't qtparted resize my NTFS partition?
 

I have a new Compaq P2000 with a 60G HD and about 40G of free space.

I started defragmenting the HD until there was 0% fragmentation.

Then I tried to resize the NTFS partition with qtparted (from Kanotix) and got this message:
Then I used ntfsfix on Kanotix and immediately CHKDSK on XP, and right after that, I tried again with qtparted. Again the same message!

By the way, the computer came with PC Recovery and a recovery partition on its HD. Could this be causing the problem? If it does, what is the best step here?

Any hint will be appreciated.

I see from your profile that you also have, or had, SuSE 9.0. You could boot up with the SuSE disk and use the installation program to resize the NTFS partition.

Use the Advanced Custom partitioning option. After the resizing is finished, you can abort the installation and install the distro that you want. I don't know if a recovery partition could be the problem. It might be because the partition is marked as hidden, but I'm just guessing. I've re-sized my XP partition during Mandrake and SuSE installs on two laptops and never had a problem loosing data, however backing up anything important would be a good idea.

I had to use a linux disk once to create a partition for an NT install, because the Windows NT installation program choked on drives over 2 GB.

Thanks for your answer, jschiwal.

I got rid of the recovery partition, but the situation has not changed.

I have yet to try the SUSE tool. I'll let you know how it goes.

I used the SUSE tool to resize the NTFS partition. It first gave me a message saying that it can resize the partition up to 0 MB only. Then I tried to resize it anyway and then the whole installation CD gave me an error message and kicked me out.

So far I don't see any way to repartition the disk to install Linux.

You do not need to do a full defrag because all you need to do is a space defrag so all the data is in the front of the hard drive. Sometimes disabling the swap in Windows will work on some systems.

SystemRescueCD is a good tool to have around.

If everything fails, try Partition Magic.

I flat out refuse to use *any* of the GUI ntfs tools - all of which I suspect call ntfsresize.
If you use ntfsresize itself (as in CLI) you see all the messages, and can react accordingly. Never had a problem, even on paritions that needed fixing.

Thank you for your answers.
I am using SystemRescueCD now.
After ntfsresize -i /dev/hda1:
I ran chkdsk c: /f on xp, and tried again ntfsresize: same error message as above.

I am going to boot a recent Knoppix, looking for a more recent version of ntfsresize.

By the way, do you recommend ranish for a case like this?

You have a bad disk. You can force ntfsresize to work despite the bad blocks.
Erk ...

See the manpage for the the --bad-sectors switch.
Get some (validated) backups (plural) of the entire partition first if you decide to try this.

This time I tried from Knoppix 4.0.
After running chkdsk again, this time with the options /f /r, I entered ntfsresize -i /dev/hda1. Here, as you can see, the message is slightly different:
At this point, what are the chaces that I destroy my data by using the --bad-sectors option?

I highly appreciate your input here.

Don't tell us that you did not make a backup first. When fiddling with partitions, there's always a chance that something goes wrong and that you loose all data. It can be a lengthy process to get it all back.

Thank you, syg00. I didn't read your previous post.
At this point I see two options:

1. Then use the --bad-sectors option.

2. Play it safe (as in chicken) and install a distro designed to work inside the NTFS partition. I'm thinking Topologilinux.

I always recommend backups when using utilities as reliable as Partition Magic. Unfortunately partimage can not be used to make an image of NTFS filesystems, so Norton Ghost or corporate level backup software needs to be used. Norton Ghost could be used if you do not want to spend time finding all the data that you value.

I suggest using either hard drives or DVD discs for cheap backups. CD are not reliable for backups because that do not include ECC information. DVD discs includes ECC so the data gets reconstructed when the data is partially corrupted. DVD and hard drives includes ECC.

You could use VMware if you pick your second plan. NTFS file and directory permissions suck. The part of Linux security is its file and directory permissions. VMware provides a machine that you can run another OS with out rebooting or setting up mult-booting.

Thanks, Electro.
I'll follow your advice and take due precautions. I just went to partimage.org and confirmed what you just said: no good for NTFS (yet).
How about ntfsclone?

xri, you could have a look at gparted:
http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...kage_id=173828

Thank you, twilli227.
I see. Looks good. It seems to use ntfsprogs (http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/).
There is also http://partitionlogic.org.uk/index.html.

Hello, I had a similar problem with my 120 GB seagate disc which has 4 kb bad sectors.
I could not resize it with gparted-livecd-0.3.3-0 because of the bad sectors. I tried to run some chkdsk /f /r like suggested without luck. The solution was to use qtparted v0.4.5-cvs running from KNOPPIX 5.1.1 live CD. Qtparted ignored the bad sector problem and resized the disc. Running the same version of qtparted from kubuntu 2.6.15.27-386, generates an error when trying to resize.

I have also heard that you can use ntfs-resize with bad sector option selected.

Hope some of this can be used by others :)

Good luck.

Grzegorz Nowak, webdrive.dk admin.