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Old 06-02-2016, 03:57 AM   #1
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want to buy a laptop, is it good?


please help
looking to buy a new laptop, after my 7yo acer broke

looking at this

http://www.pcgarage.ro/notebook-lapt...freedos-black/

i have an intel 535 120gb to pair with the new laptop

old one had a core2duo t9500, 2.5G, 6mb cache
this has core i3-5010, 2.1G, 3mb cache
the i3 seems faster

had an ati 4650/1gb video
this has intel 4400 and 5500 gpu wich look faster on paper


what do you think about this
lenovo quality, gpu performance?

i dont game very much, old stuff counter strike 1.6, doom(zandronum), openra, red ecllipse
will not run windows

what is the support for switchable graphics on linux
i only saw intel-nvidia , intel-amd or amd-amd but not intel intel
will i be able to switch between 5500 on the cpu, and 4400 on the mainboard?

is there a generic command line utility that works on every distro
to switch between intel gpus?

how is the support for broadwell on linux, ill use at least kernel 4.0
i hear skylake has problems with powerstates or has been resolved

will probably use antix 15 or 16, 32 bit
i can go higher in price, i just dont see the need



thank you
 
Old 06-02-2016, 05:43 AM   #2
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zpimp,

I can answer some of your questions, but I am not an expert on graphics cards.

That Lenovo 50-80-DOS with the Intel i3-5010u (rated at 3064) looks fine.

The Intel Core2 Duo T9500 was rated at 1820 (the i3-5010u is 70% faster).

Intel SSDs are the best available, in my opinion, so no problem with the 535.

Intel video is Linux-friendly, ATI less so.

This laptop should be 64 bit, so I am not sure why you want to use a 32 bit Linux OS.

I have nothing against antiX, but from the same stable there is MX-15.

You can use any Linux OS you want basically.

See post #10 here:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...er-4175581010/

AntiX is usually used on old, slow non-performance hardware. Your hardware is modern and fast, so why use antix, unless you particularly want to?
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i can go higher in price, i just don't see the need
There is no need to pay more.

By buying a DOS machine you have already avoided paying the "Windows tax".

Historical note on Window Tax in the UK:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_tax

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Old 06-02-2016, 10:29 AM   #3
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im using 32bit cause of some software is 32bit, and i want to avoid installing to much stuff (32 bit deps), and i never seem to use more than 3gb of ram anyway

i use antix cause i want a single distro on all my systems, mostly core2duo, i want the lightest there is, while being usable
and antix is the only one that has most of what i need out of the box

on other distros bigger in size, i always miss some functionality and or piece of software

alos, i am running antix now on a 10yo 2006 pentium m centrino 1.8G 2mb cache/512ram
 
Old 06-02-2016, 12:47 PM   #4
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My biggest gripes with that laptop are:

1. 1366x768 on a 15" is HUGE, unless you're going blind, IMO, it's unusably low resolution.

2. Doesn't say what wireless it has, which means it's PROBABLY going to end up being Broadcom. They are available with Intel, Atheros, Realtek & Broadcom, so who knows which you'll get.

Broadwell overall works great with linux, I have 2 Broadwell laptops and neither have any issues related to the chipset.

The laptop only has 1 graphics card, Intel doesn't make a discreet graphics card in order to do switchable graphics. The built-in is the only one. It's the 5500, where it says 4400 is incorrect, that was the integrated graphics for Haswell CPU's. The 5xx0 is the Broadwell integrated.

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Old 06-02-2016, 04:21 PM   #5
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1).1366x768 is perfect, i consider 1920x1080 too much for laptop
even for tv i think more than 1920x1080 is just a gimmick

2).so is broadcom bad? should i look for weak signal or connection drops?


3).
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My biggest gripes with that laptop are:
The laptop only has 1 graphics card, Intel doesn't make a discreet graphics card in order to do switchable graphics. The built-in is the only one. It's the 5500, where it says 4400 is incorrect, that was the integrated graphics for Haswell CPU's. The 5xx0 is the Broadwell integrated.
thats what i thought,but i wasnt sure its probably a mistake, will confirm if/when i get it
its not logical to have a second intel gpu, slower than the one on cpu

also wikipedia says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_..._Iris_Graphics
"As part of the Platform Controller Hub (PCH) design, the northbridge was eliminated and graphics processing was moved to the same die with the central processing unit (CPU)."

edit: by searching manufacturer product code 80EW05NRRI i found
http://www.cel.ro/laptop-laptopuri/l...gb-dvdrw-hd-l/
seems to be the same, and wifi is Intel 3160 A/C, is it good ?

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Old 06-02-2016, 05:15 PM   #6
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Intel wifi is very good. Broadcom wifi CAN be made to work, but Broadcom does not play well with Linux as far as open source drivers. They do release some drivers, but, they're sometimes difficult to get working. If it does come with the Intel, you'll have absolutely no issues with getting this to work with any reasonably recent kernel.

As far as the resolution, you and I would never be able to share laptops. I won't touch something above 12" that doesn't have AT LEAST 1080P resolution, as I find everything becomes too large for me to use within arms length, and I have to use an external keyboard to have it far enough away from me to tolerate.

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Old 06-02-2016, 09:42 PM   #7
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Meh. I use 32 bit AntiX on my I5 , 8 gig ram, Dell Laptop.
YMMV from mine though. Different strokes and all.
 
Old 08-13-2016, 09:31 AM   #8
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I found also some interesting items on emag, for example a laptop Lenovo IdeaPad B50-80 with 802.11 ac, a classical display of 15.6", 500 GB HDD, 4GB RAM memory, Intel processor with 2200 MHz and video with 2 GB seems ptretty right for gaming, programming, entertainment and much more i guess!
As beachboy2 said, Intel core i5 also must be good, i think it worth to be taken into consideration!
Cheers!
 
Old 08-13-2016, 01:36 PM   #9
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I recommend looking at this website and decide for yourself. It does a good job of ranking the hardware based on performance.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-....171212.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-C....149418.0.html

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Old 08-15-2016, 09:29 AM   #10
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I like your choice of size, 15.6 in screen.
On my Lenovo laptop, which has an i3 processor, I find it slow.
My second laptop with an i5 processor is much faster. I wouldn't buy another with less than
an i5 or equivalent processor.
 
  


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