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DamjanDimitrioski 07-26-2009 08:04 AM

Thomson speedtouch router usb interface not recognized with a newer filmware 7.4.35.0
 
Hi,

I got an Alcatel Thomson speedtouch, it's provided by my ISP, it had some (actually a lot of) connection drops, so the intelligent ISP service just upgraded the filmware, so now the router sucks more, the usb interface it's not in the list of usb devices shown by lsub, previously the list showed a name "Alcatel Telecom Speed Touch" or similar, now nothing, the LED diode on the router is off.

Now can it be a driver issue or is it only the filmware like usb disabled ?

tredegar 07-26-2009 08:26 AM

Modem / routers supplied "free" by your ISP can cause headaches, especially if they have a USB interface. (I had a USB Alcatel once).

I threw mine away, and got myself a Netgear DG834G (Ethernet & wireless modem / router) which was not expensive, very easy to set up, works with ALL distros, and has been very reliable.

Welcome to LQ

DamjanDimitrioski 07-26-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620694)
Modem / routers supplied "free" by your ISP can cause headaches,

I know, but I don't have any cash.

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620694)
especially if they have a USB interface. (I had a USB Alcatel once).

The ethernet interface somehow slows my whole system, the usb interface worked perfectly except when sometimes disconnected I needed to restart /etc/rc.d/network.

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620694)
I threw mine away, and got myself a Netgear DG834G (Ethernet & wireless modem / router) which was not expensive, very easy to set up, works with ALL distros, and has been very reliable.

The setup is easy, if not I could flash it and install some distro on it and configure it how I want. The main problem is how to get a router :). Or probably I could find some old computer and make it to be a router, hmm good idea, f*** the ISP's router.

The router is at least here 50 euros, and old computer with a monitor I can find for that amount, so I can install> Firewall, some other extreme protections, one bridge for home networking and the router is ready :).

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620694)
Welcome to LQ

Thanks.

tredegar 07-26-2009 11:52 AM

That link you gave me in your first post points at the "Thomson ST780 (WL)"

Is that what you have? If so, I now realise it's quite special ( and much better than my old Alcatel ) and is an ethernet router, as well as handling VOIP and other stuff.

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The ethernet interface somehow slows my whole system
- Then there's something else wrong. USB uses more CPU cycles than ethernet (sorry, but I forget where I read that).

Ethernet is the way to go with linux networks. Use ethernet, and that thing will work as your router :)

I have not used "ArchLinux" but with ethernet you should get a connection with the following (as root)

ifdown eth0 #(in case it was already "up" but badly configured.)
dhclient eth0
then
ifconfig
should show you have an IP address for eth0

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the LED diode on the router is off.
Which LED ? There are several.
Maybe it is not powered up, or properly connected. Check your wiring, check your cables, try different ones. Be methodical.

Did it ever work properly? Have you installed the appropriate DSL filters on all your phone extensions?

DamjanDimitrioski 07-26-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620843)
That link you gave me in your first post points at the "Thomson ST780 (WL)"

Is that what you have? If so, I now realise it's quite special ( and much better than my old Alcatel ) and is an ethernet router, as well as handling VOIP and other stuff.

Yes, that's the one, maybe powerful but restricted :(, I can't even use the telnet interface to get the public ip :( or reset the ip i.e reconnect.

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620843)
- Then there's something else wrong. USB uses more CPU cycles than ethernet (sorry, but I forget where I read that).

When it was USB it was a way faster.

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620843)
Ethernet is the way to go with linux networks. Use ethernet, and that thing will work as your router :)

But ethernet is so slow, when I had another computer wired on the router, the upload was faster trough the usb interface.

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620843)
I have not used "ArchLinux" but with ethernet you should get a connection with the following (as root)

ifdown eth0 #(in case it was already "up" but badly configured.)
dhclient eth0
then
ifconfig
should show you have an IP address for eth0

When it was working, it worked without any configuration changes.

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620843)
Which LED ? There are several.
Maybe it is not powered up, or properly connected. Check your wiring, check your cables, try different ones. Be methodical

I believe I mentioned, the "usb interface LED diode", or I forgot :D.

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620843)
Did it ever work properly? Have you installed the appropriate DSL filters on all your phone extensions?

No additional software was needed the first time I installed it (the router).

tredegar 07-26-2009 12:14 PM

Does it work properly with that "other" OS ?

I am trying to discover if your problem lies with:
1] Your linux setup
2] Your cables
3] Your ISP
4] Your Thomson ST780 (You, or your ISP "re-flashed" it I think)

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I believe I mentioned, the "usb interface LED diode", or I forgot
You forgot. Have you tried a different USB cable? Different USB port on your PC?

We need to narrow this down a little to find exactly where the problem lies, then dig down until we find, and hopefully correct, the fault.

DamjanDimitrioski 07-26-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620867)
Does it work properly with that "other" OS ?

I got only ArchLinux, tried many live cd's, the usb interface it's not working.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredegar (Post 3620867)
I am trying to discover if your problem lies with:
1] Your linux setup
2] Your cables
3] Your ISP
4] Your Thomson ST780 (You, or your ISP "re-flashed" it I think)


You forgot. Have you tried a different USB cable? Different USB port on your PC?

I tried all my usb ports + I tried a brand new USB hub that I just bought it is USB 2.0.

Well I'm using the usb cable that they provided me (the ISP) which came with the package, it has a standard usb head and on the other end (the routers side) it's a mini usb head.

tredegar 07-27-2009 04:42 AM

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I tried all my usb ports + I tried a brand new USB hub that I just bought it is USB 2.0..... Well I'm using the usb cable that they provided me
"Hubs" tend to complicate matters. Leave that out of the equation if you can.

Beg / borrow / buy another USB cable, if you must, but I keep telling you that ethernet is the way to go with linux.

When I say "Does it work properly with that "other" OS ?", I mean win-something (XP, vista?). You are still posting to the internet so something must be working.

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I got only ArchLinux, tried many live cd's, the usb interface it's not working.
It (USB) is unlikely to do so with linux without much work. At the risk of repeating myself, ethernet is what you should be using.

DamjanDimitrioski 07-27-2009 08:51 AM

This is the thing, I'm obsessed with speed, so I want to make faster system, that's why I don't like ethernet interface, I said before filmware updgrade the usb was working without any configuration change.

win is out of the question, I rather jump from my balcony, GNU/Linux is my choice, and I shall use it until GNU/Hurd is fully functional ]:).


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