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Old 09-28-2004, 01:03 AM   #1
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This is the END...


Well...I think i'm going to give up. I started my Linux trip about 6 month ago, and I am still posting thread ... under Windows !

(I started with RedHat 7.1...too old.
I upgraded to RedHat 8.0 : my HP printer did not work correctly & I had a "kernel panic" the first time I tried my CDROm.
I tried Suse 9.1 : Printer was correct, but this time I had only 640/480 available on screen, no matter I put in XF86config.
I tried Slackware a couple of days ago : good screen resolution, but no more modem ! )

This is where I am. Here is what happens :

1) Each time I try to execute ppp-on, I read in /var/log/messages:

"kernel: ttyS2: LSR safety check engaged!"
"chat : can't get terminal parameters: input/output error"

I went to google, made search in Linuxquestions, and it seems that...nobody knows ! Everybody who asked a question on this problem did not have any answer.

The modem worked under RedHat, and is working right now under windows.

2) I have also a "problem initializing mouse" ; but not everytime.

3) I should have access to my "last commands" using the up arrow, in the shell. Unfortunatly, the shell doesn't seem to save anything since 2 days. So, if I use the up array to recall the last command, I only have the last one of sunday. Weird...


Perhaps I should install a bare linux, without any package, test my modem, printer, monitor, adding packages one by one ?

I don't know...
 
Old 09-28-2004, 01:35 AM   #2
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One reason why people ask questions and don't always give direct answers is simple. Going from Microsoft to Linux takes a little getting use to. We need to learn what we are doing. So some people will throw ideas at you to help you trouble shoot it. And some may not know the answer. Personally I know what I experience, therefore I cannot help unless someone is experiencing what I did. I had a hell of a time setting up my modem. Suse found it and it worked great with little effort but No other distro picked it up right. Mandrake 10.0 Official was and is my favorite and it took a little bit to figure out how to get my winmodem working with Mandrake. I didn't give up, though I wanted to and got very pissed at times. But now my winmodem is working great in Mandrake. Actually I have a dual boot system and XP is installed. Mandrake works quicker with my dial up then XP. Not sure why.

Take your time and try different distros. Play around with it and get comfortable, but don't take it to seriously. In time all things will fall into place. I am still relatively a Linux Newbie but with the help of google linux, this forum and my stubborness I made it pretty far. I only use XP for games now. I don't even think of using it to get online anymore.

Suse 9.1 is a striped down free distro, it worked with my winmodem but lacked a lot. I would recommend Mandrake 10.0 official. I used kppp to get my dial up working becuase it didn't work with just Mandrake alone, still not sure why.

I made a post similiar to this one not that long ago in another forum. There is some differences to get use to when one is going from Microsoft to Linux. But I think it is well worth it in the end.

Good Luck. I hope you find the solution to your problem.



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Old 09-28-2004, 01:35 AM   #3
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1) Do you by any chance have a serial mouse running on COM1? If you do, try changing it to COM2, or changing your modem (maybe by jumpers on the modem itself) to use COM2 or COM4.

3) What does 'ls -l ~/.bash_history' print out?

Don't give up! I know that not having a working internet connection can be a major pain, but once this is sorted out, you might find it all worth it.
 
Old 09-28-2004, 11:36 PM   #4
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1) My mouse is linked to /dev/psaux, so there shouldn't be any problem here.

3) I checked bash_history : the file has not been modified since 2 days (27,21H04). I looked inside, and nothing more is appended since this time...

I don't know why.

About the LSR problem, I think I have an found. I'll start another thread with a specific question.

Thanks for your answer.
 
Old 09-29-2004, 12:29 AM   #5
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when you do the ls -l command, you should see something like this:

-rw-r----- user group size date .bash_history

the important thing to check is whether that first w is there (and the username is yours) - if not, you have somehow lost permissions to write to that file, so bash is not able to save your history there anymore. If the permissions are ok, type "echo $HISTFILE" and see if it prints nothing at all, or a different filename.
 
Old 10-01-2004, 02:18 PM   #6
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Well, I installed all again, because before begining to work, I want to make sure all things a correct. I forgot to look $HISTFILE, so we'll never know what was going on, and I'm sorry for that, because it could have been interresting.

About the LSR error message and my modem, the answer is hidden in the looong "Linux modem HOW TO" article. In short, my modem's UART does not seems to be a IO port to my kernel. I won't use my modem under linux.

Thank's Cromagnon and webwolf.
 
Old 10-01-2004, 03:43 PM   #7
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Quote:
Well...I think i'm going to give up. I started my Linux trip about 6 month ago, and I am still posting thread ... under Windows !
That much is entirely your choice, but why "give up"?

My first go at Linux was with Mandrake (6.5) "Linux for Windows". It installed Linux to a FAT partition using the UMSDOS filesystem, which ment no resizing or partitioning. Since my video chipset was not supported the screen was 4 times the size of my monitor and was all washed out and cartoony. I spent a lot of time thinking I just needed the correct settings. I finally learned that the video chipset was the problem and did not fight with it anymore. I had looked around the system enough to be curious and was interested in Linux, but skeptical. I started getting kernel panics and found I had to boot into safe mode to start Linux.

When I saw that Suse 6.4 supported my video chipset I purchased it and Partition Commander. I resized my Windows partition and did a real Linux install. One of the choices was to "install everything". I chose that and Suse installed about 6 GB of software. The video was great and looked completely normal. However my onboard sound and Winmodem did not work. I fooled with them both for a while, but since I was wiser for my "video chipset" experience, I realized that it may not just be a setting change that was needed. I did finally get a USR external modem and was online in minutes.

I switched to Mandrake 7.1, video was fine and the USR modem worked great but still no sound. I worked through a Linux from Scratch version. I was not sure what to do with it, but I learned how to compile software and do simple troubleshooting of the process.

Windows 98 had still been what I used most but at some point, with some really bad troubleshooting steps from my ISP, to a minor problem, Windows completely lost the ability to get online. Just a month before I had set Mandrake up with all my ISP, mail, and news settings so there was not a huge problem. Windows never did connect again until I did a complete reinstall months later.

Before I installed Mandrake 8.0 I bought a cheap Soundblaster sound card. I installed to a new hard drive using Lilo rather than Partition Commander to boot. My sound was now working. I was installing multiple distributions.

Using Slackware I cound not get my modem working. Once again I wrestled with it some. The modem worked fine with every other Linux. I found much later that a change to the default modem string was needed. I used something like "AT &F1" rather than whatever the default was. Oddly this only occured to me because it was one thing I had looked at trying to troubleshoot the Windows lost internet connection.

Good Luck.
 
  


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