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05-12-2022, 07:36 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jan 2010
Location: Denial
Distribution: Many
Posts: 29
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Suspected hardware issue causing lightdm to fail to start
Just acquired a new laptop and am installing Debian Buster on it. during the boot sequence Light DM is halting it from continuing. The laptop is fairly new. It is Acer's A515-46-R3UB.
I have installed back ports and updated and upgraded everything. However still get the error.
Much appreciation to those who know a lot more than me who are willing to help. Thanks.
CPU Info: AMD Ryzen 3350U with radeon vega mobile gfx
System BIOS Version: V 1.05
GOP version: AMD GOPx64 Release Driver Rev.2.8.0.0.0. Jul 26 2019. 11:24:53
HDD0 Model Name: None
HDD0 Serial Number: None
HDD1 Model Name: HFM128GD3JX016N
HDD1 Serial Number: FYA4NO26710504A3D
SATA MODE: AHCI
Total Memory: 4096MB
SERIAL NUMBER: NXABRAA007147289DD7600
PRODUCT NAME: Aspire A15-46
MANUFACTURER: Acer
UUID: 7D95F2C2-E286-8F4E-9D9F-C018506B58EB
Code:
lightdm.service - Light Display Manager
loaded: loaded(/lib/systemd/system/lightdm/lightdm.service; inderect vendor present:enabled)
Active failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2022-05-11 22:08:59 EDT; 3 mins39s ago
DOCS: man:lightdm(1)
Process: 598 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c ( "$cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager 2>/dev/null)= "/usr/sbin/lightdm") (code=exited, staus=0/success
Process: 600 ExecStart= usr/sbin/lightdm (code=exited, status=1/failure)
Main PID: 600 (code=exited, status=1/failure)
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05-12-2022, 08:58 AM
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#2
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LQ Addict
Registered: Mar 2012
Location: Hungary
Distribution: debian/ubuntu/suse ...
Posts: 23,991
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can you post the content of /lib/systemd/system/lightdm/lightdm.service
Why do you think it is a hardware error?
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05-12-2022, 09:51 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jan 2010
Location: Denial
Distribution: Many
Posts: 29
Original Poster
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Thanks for the help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by pan64
can you post the content of /lib/systemd/system/lightdm/lightdm.service
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Sorry for the image, haven't figured out how to export text without gui:
https://i.imgur.com/ONI2Oxr.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by pan64
Why do you think it is a hardware error?
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From my Googling, others with issues like this and a laptop this new end in "Your laptop was built after Buster, upgrade to Bullseye".
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05-12-2022, 10:02 AM
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LQ Addict
Registered: Mar 2012
Location: Hungary
Distribution: debian/ubuntu/suse ...
Posts: 23,991
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ok, would be nice to see the log of lightdm (can be found in /var/log/lightdm)
use pastebin for posting log files
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05-14-2022, 08:28 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Mar 2015
Distribution: in the past Mandrake, Debian, Knoppix, Antix, now Devuan
Posts: 21
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If it is (still) possible in Debian to use another init system than systemd (sysvinit, openrc, runit), you can give it a try. As your problem appears to be related to the way the system is initialized, it may help. (A friend of mine is using Acer A 15 with Devuan stable /chimaera/ and Light DM/LXDE with no troubles; and the main difference between Devuan and Debian is the absence of systemd in the former, sysvinit being the default init system.)
But it is just an idea, it may be simpler to solve it via changes in init files etc. Nevertheless I do not think that it is a hw issue, I do not see solid relationship between functioning of (light)dm and the hardware.
Last edited by r37; 05-15-2022 at 09:05 AM.
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05-14-2022, 06:06 PM
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#6
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LQ Guru
Registered: Aug 2016
Location: SE USA
Distribution: openSUSE 24/7; Debian, Knoppix, Mageia, Fedora, OS/2, others
Posts: 6,420
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I suggest to try another DM, to rule out whether LightDM has anything to do with the problem. TDM with amdgpu on Buster works fine here:
Code:
# inxi -GISaz
System:
Kernel: 4.19.0-20-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz root=LABEL=<filter> noresume
ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 mitigations=auto consoleblank=0
radeon.cik_support=0 amdgpu.cik_support=1 video=1440x900@60
Desktop: Trinity v: R14.0.12 tk: Qt v: 3.5.0 info: kicker wm: Twin v: 3.0
vt: 7 dm: TDM Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: amdgpu
v: kernel alternate: radeon ports: active: DP-1,DVI-D-1 empty: VGA-1
bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:130f class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.4 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 4480x1440 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 948x304mm (37.32x11.97")
s-diag: 996mm (39.19")
Monitor-1: DVI-D-1 mapped: DVI-D-0 pos: right model: NEC EA243WM
serial: <filter> built: 2011 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94 gamma: 1.2
size: 519x324mm (20.43x12.76") diag: 612mm (24.1") ratio: 16:10 modes:
max: 1920x1200 min: 640x480
Monitor-2: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 pos: primary,left
model: Acer K272HUL serial: <filter> built: 2018 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60
dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2 size: 598x336mm (23.54x13.23") diag: 686mm (27")
ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
OpenGL: renderer: AMD KAVERI (DRM 3.27.0 4.19.0-20-amd64 LLVM 7.0.1)
v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes
Info:...Shell: Bash v: 5.0.3
running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.15
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05-15-2022, 01:49 AM
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LQ Addict
Registered: Dec 2013
Posts: 19,872
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Generally speaking, new hardware and Debian stable don't go together very well.
Usually, at the very least, you'll need a backported kernel.
If it's very new it often doesn't go well with Linux at all. I could find 2 articles about your device, both from this year.
Have you considered a slightly less conservative distro?
Last edited by ondoho; 05-15-2022 at 01:51 AM.
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05-15-2022, 08:30 AM
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LQ Addict
Registered: Mar 2012
Location: Hungary
Distribution: debian/ubuntu/suse ...
Posts: 23,991
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho
Generally speaking, new hardware and Debian stable don't go together very well.
Usually, at the very least, you'll need a backported kernel.
If it's very new it often doesn't go well with Linux at all. I could find 2 articles about your device, both from this year.
Have you considered a slightly less conservative distro?
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Yes, ubuntu 22.04 "has" a better chance (try live CD), but anyway would be nice to se some additional logs to be able to step forward.
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05-15-2022, 09:03 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Mar 2015
Distribution: in the past Mandrake, Debian, Knoppix, Antix, now Devuan
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmazda
I suggest to try another DM, to rule out whether LightDM has anything to do with the problem. TDM with amdgpu on Buster works fine here
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This is a good idea, too. It is of course possible that TDM does not go well with the desktop that @schwim intends to use but for a diagnostics it is perfect and perhaps not so demanding; and an opportunity to try Trinity Desktop can be an added value 
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