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Old 01-18-2004, 01:42 PM   #16
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I think I found the solution, as much as it may disappoint you after all your time trying to help me figure this out. I noticed on your profile, you use Arch Linux. I'd never heard of it, so I went and did some reading. Seems like something I'd like to try, I like the idea of a distro that's geared towards my architecture. The SuSE install is only a week old, so it wouldn't be a big deal to try another distro. I mean I haven't done anything since installing SuSE other than try to figure out this darned 3D, so I could backup my eMail and bookmarks to a floppy again (burner busted, I don't trust backing up to a partition.)
Changing disto's might throw me into a whole new kettle of fish, but I'm not very impressed with the amount of junk the default SuSE install left me with. Being as fast was what I was after, I shouldn't have let the impressive package list for SuSE distract me(I'm like a pack rat in that respect I guess, shiny things distract me).
Again, UnTamed, thanks for your help. It's been very informative and helped me to see that my problems lie a lot deeper than just the radeon.
It took me several days to get 3D accel working with RH9, because I followed the directions of someone like Caeda(wonder where he went?). It only took ten minutes with Mandrake. By that I mean from the first boot, running gears and seeing no 3D acceleration, to ten minutes later playing Chromium. All I had to do was add the "ForcePCIMode" "TRUE" option. This SuSE setup is just absurd. The XF86Config looks nothing like the ones under RH9 or Mdk9.2. SuSE is also taking a huge amount of time to boot, over two minutes. From what I've read so far about Arch, it's more what I want. Would you recommend this option, UnTamed? My processor is a 1200MHz Celeron, and it's been detected by all three distro's I've tried as a PIII, i686.
Old 01-18-2004, 02:51 PM   #17
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I believe you about Mdk, I used to run that when I first got my old 32SDR and as soon as support was decent for both my motherbaord chipset and the radeon code in XFree-4.1.0, Mdk picked it right up in both 8.1 and 8.2, don't see no reason why it wouldn't do so nowadays.

About Arch, ...lean, fast, solid and bleeding-edge is what I can say about it and pacman is a very nice and powerfull tool.
It won't do much config for you though, but especially read the docs about "pacman", its package manager, before getting into it. If you can pretty much config your distro with very basic tools, once you get the hang of "pacman" you'll just love it. could actually backup to floppy a couple of your config files that work good in your actual install and use them as reference later on.

I use Crux mostly now [...from which Arch was based originally], guess I should edit my profile,
but I'm glad I got to Arch first , and if I ever get a little lazier, I'll return to Arch at once.

...sorry I couldn't help more, there has to be a way to make this work, even in SUSE.
Old 01-18-2004, 03:39 PM   #18
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UnTamed, you helped more than you know. You got me looking deeper itno this mess and made me realize just what a mess it really is. I guess SuSE isn't rally the distro for me because I like the stuff I change to stay changed. For example, my XF86Config file now again has the "ForcePCIMode" with out the "1" I put in a couple of hours ago. I've got the FTP floppies made, the mirror list wrote down, and am looking forward to trying Arch. Thanks again for your time, and hopefully we've at least cured Caeda from only reading the top half of the threads!

By the way, if you read SuSE's hardware compatability list, there's only one old ATI card listed as supported..under SuSE 7.2

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