yeah, Im a newb here.

I threw Mandrake 9.2 on a duel boot with windows using GRUB.

working nicely so far just one problem... my sound is not working.

Works on windows but I suppose thats cause I threw the drivers on. I currently have RealTek Audio.....AC97 I believe.

Any way I can get my sound working? Thanks

Another newbie here with the same problem on the same distro. But my sound card is: CMI8330 PnP ISA sound card.

sndconfig couldn't manage it - gives error while testing. I left doing it manually but I can't. Any comments??? Thanks.

Have you checked your mixer settings? Mixers are muted by default in many distros for some unknown reason. If you're not getting any errors on startup, then your sound cards are configured correctly (and Mandrake is actually very good about this).

So fire up KMix, the GNOME mixer applet or aumix and see if that's not the problem.

Good luck.

No.... good

YOu know when you boot up KDE and it makes the nice little music.... all I get is crackling.

Crackling means that the card is configured and working properly, and your mixers aren't muted.

Your sound server, however, is not properly configured.

Go to the KDE Control Center=>Sound and Multimedia=>Sound I/O (if KDE 3.1.x) or Sound Server (if KDE 3.2.x) and change the sound server to use OSS instead of Autodetect.

That usually solves it for me on the rare occasions I use KDE (I'm a GNOME girl, and aRTS is one of the reasons why). If OSS doesn't work, you can try Threaded OSS, or ALSA (depending on what drivers you're using), but OSS usually is the safest bet, even if you're using ALSA (as long as you installed/enabled OSS emulation, which is always wise).

Hope that helps.

ARGH!

I try that but when I click on the Sound System thing it locks up KDE making me reboot.

Well, that can't be good (yes, I know, understatement of the year).

Something sounds broken, to me (another understatement).

I mean, when trying to use the CP causes a hard lockup, you've got bigger problems than "no sound" (because that is definitely abnormal behaviour, both for KDE and for Mandrake).

Can you open a terminal, type "dmesg" (without the quotes) and post the output here? This will show if anything unusual is going on during the boot sequence.

Thanks for helping me so far. heres the results.

Linux version 2.4.22-10mdk (nplanel@no.mandrakesoft.com) (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-2mdk)) #1 Thu Sep 18 12:30:58 CEST 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001fff0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000001fff0000 - 000000001fff8000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 000000001fff8000 - 0000000020000000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fff80000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
511MB LOWMEM available.
ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000
found SMP MP-table at 000fb930
hm, page 000fb000 reserved twice.
hm, page 000fc000 reserved twice.
hm, page 000f6000 reserved twice.
hm, page 000f7000 reserved twice.
On node 0 totalpages: 131056
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 126960 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 AMI ) @ 0x000fa980
ACPI: RSDT (v001 AMIINT VIA_K7 0x00000010 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x1fff0000
ACPI: FADT (v001 AMIINT VIA_K7 0x00000011 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x1fff0030
ACPI: MADT (v001 AMIINT VIA_K7 0x00000009 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x1fff00c0
ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA VIA_K7 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000d) @ 0x00000000
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 16
Using ACPI for processor (LAPIC) configuration information
Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.4
Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
OEM ID: VIA Product ID: VT5440B APIC at: 0xFEE00000
I/O APIC #2 Version 3 at 0xFEC00000.
Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs
Processors: 1
Building zonelist for node : 0
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hdb1 devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht splash=silent vga=788
ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi
bootsplash: silent mode.
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 2000.131 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 3984.58 BogoMIPS
Memory: 514644k/524224k available (1508k kernel code, 9192k reserved, -1961k data, 156k init, 0k highmem, 0k BadRAM)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
CPU: CLK_CTL MSR was 6003d22f. Reprogramming to 2003d22f
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ stepping 01
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 00000080
ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000
ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
Setting 2 in the phys_id_present_map
...changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 2 ... ok.
init IO_APIC IRQs
IO-APIC (apicid-pin) 2-0, 2-5, 2-10, 2-11, 2-17, 2-18, 2-19, 2-20 not connected.
..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=0
number of MP IRQ sources: 20.
number of IO-APIC #2 registers: 24.
testing the IO APIC.......................

IO APIC #2......
.... register #00: 02000000
....... : physical APIC id: 02
....... : Delivery Type: 0
....... : LTS : 0
.... register #01: 00178003
....... : max redirection entries: 0017
....... : PRQ implemented: 1
....... : IO APIC version: 0003
.... IRQ redirection table:
NR Log Phy Mask Trig IRR Pol Stat Dest Deli Vect:
00 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
01 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 39
02 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 31
03 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 41
04 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 49
05 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
06 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 51
07 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 59
08 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 61
09 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 69
0a 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
0b 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
0c 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 71
0d 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 79
0e 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 81
0f 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 89
10 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 91
11 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
12 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
13 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
14 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
15 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 99
16 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 A1
17 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 A9
IRQ to pin mappings:
IRQ0 -> 0:2
IRQ1 -> 0:1
IRQ3 -> 0:3
IRQ4 -> 0:4
IRQ6 -> 0:6
IRQ7 -> 0:7
IRQ8 -> 0:8
IRQ9 -> 0:9
IRQ12 -> 0:12
IRQ13 -> 0:13
IRQ14 -> 0:14
IRQ15 -> 0:15
IRQ16 -> 0:16
IRQ21 -> 0:21
IRQ22 -> 0:22
IRQ23 -> 0:23
.................................... done.
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
..... CPU clock speed is 2000.2060 MHz.
..... host bus clock speed is 266.6940 MHz.
cpu: 0, clocks: 2666940, slice: 1333470
CPU0<T0:2666928,T1:1333456,D:2,S:1333470,C:2666940>
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030813
ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdaf1, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/3177] at 00:11.0
PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I5,P0) -> 16
PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I16,P0) -> 21
PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I16,P1) -> 21
PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I16,P2) -> 21
PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I16,P3) -> 21
PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I17,P0) -> 22
PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I17,P2) -> 22
PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I18,P0) -> 23
PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 00:10.0, from 11 to 5
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16)
Starting kswapd
kinoded started
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
devfs: boot_options: 0x1
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xd0000000, mapped to 0xe0800000, size 1875k
vesafb: mode is 800x600x16, linelength=1600, pages=2
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:e700
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
vesafb: directcolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
Looking for splash picture.... silenjpeg size 107888 bytes, found (800x600, 107840 bytes, v3).
Got silent jpeg.
Got silent jpeg.
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 92x32
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
pty: 1024 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:11.1
VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
VP_IDE: VIA vt8235 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci00:11.1
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc00-0xfc07, BIOS settings: hdaMA, hdbMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc08-0xfc0f, BIOS settings: hdcMA, hddio
hda: WDC WD400BB-32DEA0, ATA DISK drive
hdb: WDC WD400JB-00ENA0, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c0180d20, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
blk: queue c0180e5c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
hdc: PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W8432T, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: host protected area => 1
hda: 78165360 sectors (40021 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=4865/255/63, UDMA(100)
hdb: attached ide-disk driver.
hdb: host protected area => 1
hdb: 78165360 sectors (40021 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=4865/255/63, UDMA(100)
Partition check:
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0: p1 p2 < p5 p6 >
ide: late registration of driver.
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
Initializing Cryptographic API
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 32Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 65536)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 299k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Mounted devfs on /dev
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem.
EXT3-fs: write access will be enabled during recovery.
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: recovery complete.
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 156k freed
Got silent jpeg.
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 12:42:04 Sep 18 2003
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xec00, IRQ 21
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe800, IRQ 21
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe400, IRQ 21
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
ehci_hcd 00:10.3: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0
ehci_hcd 00:10.3: irq 21, pci mem e0a75f00
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
ehci_hcd 00:10.3: USB 2.0 enabled, EHCI 1.00, driver 2003-Jun-19/2.4
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 6 ports detected
usbdevfs: remount parameter error
Splash status on console 0 changed to on
hub.c: connect-debounce failed, port 1 disabled
hub.c: new USB device 00:10.1-1, assigned address 2
usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x46d/0x870) is not claimed by any active driver.
Linux video capture interface: v1.00
quickcam [35.590588]: ----------LOADING QUICKCAM MODULE------------
quickcam [35.590595]: struct quickcam size: 5408
usb.c: registered new driver quickcam
quickcam: QuickCam USB camera found (driver version QuickCam USB $Date: 2003/06/30 10:04:40 $)
quickcam: Sensor HDCS-1020 detected
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,65), internal journal
Adding Swap: 506008k swap-space (priority -1)
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
hdc: attached ide-scsi driver.
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-R PX-W8432T Rev: 1.09
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,70), internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
NTFS driver 2.1.4a [Flags: R/O MODULE].
NTFS volume version 3.1.
via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.1.19 July-12-2003 Written by Donald Becker
http://www.scyld.com/network/via-rhine.html
eth0: VIA VT6102 Rhine-II at 0xdc00, 00:0c:76:12:66:6f, IRQ 23.
eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x786d advertising 05e1 Link 45e1.
inserting floppy driver for 2.4.22-10mdk
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
via82xx: Assuming DXS channels with 48k fixed sample rate.
Please try dxs_support=1 option and report if it works on your machine.
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:11.5 to 64
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP]
parport0: irq 7 detected
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
Looking for splash picture.... found (800x600, 14470 bytes, v3).
Splash status on console 0 changed to on
Looking for splash picture.... found (800x600, 14470 bytes, v3).
Splash status on console 1 changed to on
Looking for splash picture.... found (800x600, 14470 bytes, v3).
Splash status on console 2 changed to on
Looking for splash picture.... found (800x600, 14470 bytes, v3).
Splash status on console 3 changed to on
Looking for splash picture.... found (800x600, 14470 bytes, v3).
Splash status on console 4 changed to on
Looking for splash picture.... found (800x600, 14470 bytes, v3).
Splash status on console 5 changed to on

Yee-hai! My, goodness, you've got a lot of IRQ routing going on there! But no errors seem to be reported, so I guess it must be all right.... as well as both APIC and APM dealing with power management.

But as for the main issue at hand, here's your sound card:

via82xx: Assuming DXS channels with 48k fixed sample rate.
Please try dxs_support=1 option and report if it works on your machine.
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:11.5 to 64

No error, but rather abrupt for the module loading sequence. For instance, mine (copied from syslog) reads:

Mar 12 16:21:11 motub kernel: Via 686a/8233/8235 audio driver 1.9.1-ac3
Mar 12 16:21:11 motub kernel: via82cxxx: Six channel audio available
Mar 12 16:21:11 motub kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:11.5 to 64
Mar 12 16:21:11 motub kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: ALG48 (Unknown)
Mar 12 16:21:11 motub kernel: via82cxxx: Codec rate locked at 48Khz
Mar 12 16:21:11 motub kernel: via82cxxx: board #1 at 0xE400, IRQ 9

As you see, there's a lot more information, and afaik, that is a "normal" load sequence for my sound card-- at least, that's pretty much the boot messages I get for this sound card under any distro.

So, it seems to me your sound card is detected properly, but the modules don't look like they're loading properly/fully. That could certainly be the cause of the lockup when you try to configure sound. I am no expert, but imo the most likely cause of this is APIC, APM, or the fact that both of them are running.

Is this a laptop? Because if it isn't, you don't need APIC, and from what I've heard, turning it off will save you a lot of headache.

Now, of course, you probably want to know how to turn it off . Well, lemme get back to you on that-- though trawling through the Mandrake Control Center to check the system services activated at boot would be a good place to start.

No its a home pc but i found out why it doesent work and sorta fixed it.

In Kopete every time I ran a .ogg file it broke the sound till I rebooted. So I switched it to run .wavs and its fixed.

A bug?

It still crackles when I run a .mp3 file though

EDIT - It wont even play an mp3 now.

Yes and no. I often have a similar problem with Wine-- a process crashes, but even if I'm able to close the initial process, some "invisible" sub-processes associated with it remain running, blocking other output (like sound). The processes don't become "visible" until I log off and back on; then I can close them from the System Monitor.

I don't consider the separation of the various processes "abnormal" behaviour for a set of interlaced processes (the ones required to run the program, and the ones required to manage the sound output, for example), but the fact that half of the processes don't seem to appear in the System Monitor so that one can end them as well as the main process in the event of problems with the main program is rather a pain.

Haven't really investigated why that is or if it needs to be "fixed"-- but I'm glad that your sound is working, in any case (even though I was totally on the wrong track to helping you fix it ).

Oops, cross post-- I was typing while you were posting your additional problem.

So now it plays no sounds at all?

Do you have any other DE's installed (GNOME, fluxbox, WindowMaker)?

At this point, I would suggest booting into one of them and seeing if sound plays there. Then we could identify if this was an aRTS related (thus KDE-specific) problem, or a global sound problem.

Yeah, I have gnome on here. I can try booting in to that....

Alright im on Gnome right now... Same problem. Sound does not work.

Im booting back to KDE.