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Old 03-20-2005, 01:00 AM   #1
mattfraunfelter
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Sound Probs/no sound on mandrake 10.1 ??????


Ok I have 2 soundcards, and i am using mandrake 10.1. I have alsa 1.0.8 installed. Unfortunately nether soundcards work. When i go to configure my hardware in mandrakes harddrake, the sound cards are recognized. But when i boot i get an error. Then once I enter KDE ( kde vs. 3.2 ) i get another error. The first error i get while the system is loading looks like this:

Loading Sound Module (snd-card-0)
alsactl : save_state: 1194 : no soundcards found...
can't open /root/tmp/asound.state_tmp: no such file or directory
setting mixer settings alsactl : load_state: 1267 : no soundcards found

Then the boot process continues smoothly until i enter my user account in KDE, then the below error pops up :

(informational - Artsmessage)
Sound Server informational message:
Error while initializing the sound driver:
Device /dev/dsp can't be opened ( no such file or directory )
The Sound Server will continue, using null output device

The soundcards I have in the computer are :
1. Nvidia nForce 2 integrated APU
2. Sound Blaster Audigdy (i think its the gamer version)

I am new to linux and i am used to windows so in other words I am used to these problems being solved by the computer ; I do not have the slightest idea on how or what to do about this. I have spent about a week surfing the internet on this topic and i havent found any specific answers on how to solve this. Any and All help/comments are greatly appreacted. I very much enjoy linux so far ;-) and the only set back i have had is this, so i guess im lucky. Once again all help/comments are GREATLY apreciated.
 
Old 03-20-2005, 04:36 AM   #2
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How did yo install ALSA? Did it come with your distro or did you install it yourself? If yourself then did you install it from source?

Secondly, could you post the output of lspci and lsmod please?
 
Old 03-20-2005, 11:58 AM   #3
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First off, thanks for the response. I installed alsa using the alsa-driver-1.0.8rc2.tar.bz2, lib, ect. files and then did the ./configure;make;make install commands. Then I changed mdprobe.conf to the configuration for the SB audigy. Below are the results for lspci :

[matt@localhost matt]$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge (rev a4)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce2 SMBus (MCP) (rev a2)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)
00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via VT82C686B] (rev a2)
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI Bridge (rev a3)
00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (rev a2)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev a2)
01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
01:06.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy MIDI/Game port (rev 03)
01:06.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] (rev a3)

And ismod:

[root@localhost matt]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
forcedeth 14400 0
nls_iso8859-1 3680 1
isofs 31352 1
binfmt_misc 8744 1
md5 3584 1
ipv6 230916 10
rfcomm 32348 0
l2cap 19876 5 rfcomm
bluetooth 39076 4 rfcomm,l2cap
snd-emu10k1 94408 0
snd-rawmidi 19520 1 snd-emu10k1
snd-pcm 80680 1 snd-emu10k1
snd-seq-device 6988 2 snd-emu10k1,snd-rawmidi
snd-timer 20420 2 snd-emu10k1,snd-pcm
snd-ac97-codec 69392 1 snd-emu10k1
snd-page-alloc 7432 2 snd-emu10k1,snd-pcm
snd-util-mem 3232 1 snd-emu10k1
snd-hwdep 7040 1 snd-emu10k1
snd 47524 7 snd-emu10k1,snd-rawmidi,snd-pcm,snd-seq-device,snd-timer,snd-ac97-codec,snd-hwdep
usblp 10592 0
usbcore 103172 1 usblp
af_packet 16072 2
ide-cd 37280 1
cdrom 37724 1 ide-cd
loop 12520 0
nvidia-agp 5788 1
agpgart 27752 2 nvidia-agp
nvsound 1530600 0
soundcore 7008 2 snd,nvsound
nvidia 4805012 12
ext3 120680 4
jbd 49080 1 ext3
 
Old 03-20-2005, 01:28 PM   #4
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Just a thought...

Question: are we *sure* that Linux can handle *TWO* soundcards simultaneously?

Best,
 
Old 03-20-2005, 02:20 PM   #5
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To Robert G Hays point, if you have both onboard sound as well as a soundcard, in some cases that can cause a conflict. The solution is to disable one, either by disabling the onboard sound in BIOS, or by removing the card. I'll assume you want to use the card, so I'd suggest getting into BIOS, go to "Peripheral configuration" (or whatever it may be called) then turning off onboard sound. Good luck with it -- J.W.
 
Old 03-20-2005, 02:35 PM   #6
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Your audigy modules (drivers) seem to be running in ALSA but your nVidia onboard sound seems to have an OSS driver loaded ("nvsound"). It might be as simple as disabling that. Try a rmmod nvsound (as root). If that doesn't work then try disabling the card as J.W. suggested.
 
Old 03-30-2005, 01:03 AM   #7
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Ok hi again. First off sorry for the wait. I have been extreemly busy at work, for the past 10 days its been eat sleep work. But i finnaly am done and we met the launch date ; ) I took out the audigy card and all i want is the nvidia onboard working. I tried a Linspire 4.5 livecd and the sound worked great automaticly. This gave me alot more faith of linux, gut other than the sound working i thought Linspire was god afwul. Everything was an attempt to get me to spend money and it was tackey as hell. Plus the whole gui root makes me uncomftorbale. But any way im clueless as to how to get this working. I tried rmmod nvsound when i still had the audigy card and the sound problem was stil present. I am wondering if the reason that Linspire worked was becaus 4.5 ran off of the 2.4 kernel where as mandrake runs the 2.6. If i compile a 2.4 as my new kernel will it make a differnce. Thanks for all the posts so far.
 
Old 03-30-2005, 04:22 AM   #8
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The 2.4 kernel uses the OSS drivers. 2.6 uses ALSA. Both should work. However, you seem to have some OSS drivers compiled in your 2.6 kernel. What I would recommend would be to compile a new 2.6 kernel and then compile ALSA separately. You may have to go for the mandrake edition of the kernel as some functions may stop working with the stock version.
 
Old 03-31-2005, 03:00 AM   #9
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Thanks for all the help. ok umm. at the risk of sounding like a noob how would i go about doing that? Compiling a new kernel?
 
Old 03-31-2005, 04:23 AM   #10
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OK from your last post I assumed you knew how to do that. Bollocks that idea off for now (unless you want to learn how to do it). Remove all the sound modules with rmmod and then load tha appropriate modules with the command modprobe snd-intel8x0;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss. See if that works.
 
Old 04-02-2005, 03:00 AM   #11
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Well i tried it but and it did not work. I tried using knoppix and enjoyed it alot but i still prefer mandrake *( for some reason im starting to feel like it not destined to work for me though ) the sound worked in knoppix so im guessing this is a mandrake problem. In ether event I am going to try to compile a new Kernel. Any links to how tos or other helpful information would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to learn everything I can before I do this because I truly have no idea what i will be doing and the whole kernel thing still reminds me of corn. Any way I appreciate your help very much and if/when? I have further problems i'll come back here. Thanks again.
 
Old 04-13-2005, 01:21 AM   #12
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Hmm, You might want to try other soundcard.
Iäm having problems with audigy 2 ZS, sound plays reeeeeally "laggish" on a2zs, but when I tried SB live (the old one) it works like a dream. Though I *need* the audigy2ZS...

Still, searching for answer...

The actual problem I have is, when I have audigy2 installed and play a song that ie. starts like "Deep in the night" (gunther, lol..) it plays like:
de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-
ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-ep-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-...
...U got the point. I've disabled the onboard audio (AC97 audio, on MSI K7 mainboard, with nFORCE, that I assume causes the problem..), and that's still all I get. While trying the AC97, it works, but I don't get full-duplex sound. (TS2+AAO) And yeah, I need that Audigy2, my SB live has only 2 jacks, and my Zalman 5.1 headset needs 3...

Hope this helps, and at least U know you're not alone.
 
  


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