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Old 12-07-2004, 07:40 AM   #1
bobmao
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Angry sound card not detected in fedora core 3


Hi, I have a new computer with Fedora core 3. Since the original sound card
does not work with FC3, I bought a Soundblaster Audigy 2 Value (it should
work with linux as I checked on the web.) and installed it. It worked fine under
WinXP; however, it was a disaster under Fedora core 3. It seems worse than
what I had ever experienced before with sound problem under linux.

Here is the detailed description of the problem.

1) since the old sound card is disabled under bio, when I was rebooting, I was asked
what to do with the old sound configuration, I chose "do nothing" first. The sound
did not work. I played with the sound configuration tool under KDE. Nothing worked.
I rebooted, again. This time, I chose to "remove the old configuration". Sound did not
work, still.

2) Then I started looking around in a hard way. To my astonishment, there
is no /dev/sound or /dev/dsp. When I did /dev/MAKEDEV -v sound or
/dev/MAKEDEV -v dsp, There is still no /dev/sound or /dev/dsp. Here is
what I got after /dev/MAKEDEV -v dsp,

create dsp c 14 3 root:root 600 system_ubject_r:sound_device_t
create dsp1 c 14 19 root:root 600 system_ubject_r:sound_device_t
create dsp56k c 55 0 root:root 600 system_ubject_r:sound_device_t
symlink dsp0 -> dsp

3) if I type dmsg, I got nothing on sound.

4) here is what I got with /sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 915G/P/GV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 915G/P/GV PCI Express Root Port (rev 04)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
04:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0008

It does see my sound card.
I have no clue what to do. Please help.

Bob
 
Old 12-07-2004, 04:09 PM   #2
desertdog
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Its been a while since I have played with sound so I will give you the quick answer without the how.

Check to see if the sound module is loaded.

I am using fedora1 so I am not sure if its the same with fedora3.

Should have something to do with "alsa".

Like I said quick answer, check alsa and modules.
 
Old 12-08-2004, 07:27 AM   #3
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Thanks. I have no clue how to follow your suggestion.

I've re-installed the whole FC3 again; it did not work.
The most puzzling part is that there is no /dev/sound or /dev/dsp on my machine,
and I can make them. Frustrated as hell.

Bob
 
Old 12-08-2004, 07:35 AM   #4
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Old 12-08-2004, 08:35 AM   #5
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I am not sure if this applies to the new kernal but on the old I had to load the sound module's.

I would say the problem was not the original sound card, you may not find anything say that its supported but 9 times out of 10 you can get them to work.

Are you familiar with the HOWTO's? I believe Fedora includes them.

Try: #fine -name HOWTO*

This should show you the path to where they are on your distrubution.

They are located in the "doc" directory so you could do a search on that as well.

You could even use kde's search tool, whatever its called.

"locate" should work as well.

Than there are the "man" pages as well.

#man alsa

Just put in the name of the command or whatever you need help on.

There are info pages as well, same syntex.

Did you try the alsa site?

I dont believe alsa is a module but if it is you may have to load the module. It should be built into the kernel so I dont think this applies.

#/sbin/lsmod displays a list of the currently loaded modules.

Anyhow the doc's, man pages, info pages, HOWTO's, tutorials and guides will help you with move further along with all problems.

I also like going to freshrpms, there rpm's I find great and there could be a updated rpm that will resolve your problem with sound and even if it doesnt there is a ton of stuff there I have found useful and fun so check that out for future problems as well.

My fedora machine is down now, I just moved and lost a monitor and kvm cable and my dsl connection so I am stuck on this machine which I am embrassed to mention otherwise I would be installing fedora 3 with an old sound blaster card.

Good luck, I hope this helps you or anyone else who happens by, its a generic answer which should help on all problems.
 
Old 12-08-2004, 09:29 AM   #6
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Well, I mis-splled last time. It is "I can not make them". "them" is /dev/dsp or
/dev/

I went to sound-HOWTO. First it tells me to check whether
/dev/dsp exists. I checked; it is NOT there. So I say, ok, let me make one
with /dev/MAKEDEV . I still got no /dev/dsp. So, I can not go to the next step.

The reason I'm so frustrated is that even since RedHat 6 or 7, I have
never had sound problem. It all worked out of box. Now with FC3, I can
not even follow the basic step in sound-HOWTO to make my sound system
to work. And I have soundcard, which should work even with RedHat 5 or
somehting. The linux is getting bigger, and its quality is getting worse just like
Win. I'm giving it up unless someone offers me a detailed roadmap to
get it to work.

Bob

Bob
 
Old 12-26-2004, 05:38 PM   #7
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You cannot make the devices as FC3 is probably using udev. Check /sys as that is where udev populkates the device tree.
 
  


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