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Old 08-22-2021, 04:29 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post
Nouveau is not your sole option:
Code:
# inxi -Gay
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 630] vendor: Gigabyte driver: nouveau
  v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0f00 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: kwin_x11 driver:
  loaded: modesetting display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x2520 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 541x533mm (21.3x21.0")
  s-diag: 759mm (29.9")
  Monitor-1: DVI-I-1 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109
  size: 598x336mm (23.5x13.2") diag: 686mm (27")
  Monitor-2: HDMI-1 res: 2560x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 97 size: 673x284mm (26.5x11.2")
  diag: 730mm (28.8")
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 12.0.1 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 21.1.6
  compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes
The Modesetting DIX driver is the actual default. It's newer technology than the reverse-engineered, poor reputation, Nouveau DDX driver.
Strange that you tout a different driver when you are using nouveau. Nouveau is being used for the card, modesetting is part of the display (X11) features you show. I assume since you show the kwin_x11 compositor there that you may be using a kde desktop?

It is a known fact that nouveau is not comparable to the nvidia driver, but it works well enough for many.

I personally don't know of any options for GPU drivers with an nvidia card except nouveau (open source) and nvidia (proprietary), so if you can actually name one and show that you use it I would be willing to investigate.

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Please run "inxi -Gay" as previously requested so we can see what you actually have for video.

Last edited by computersavvy; 08-22-2021 at 04:35 PM.
 
Old 08-22-2021, 07:21 PM   #17
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Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GK104 [GeForce GTX 1060] vendor: eVga.com. driver: nouveau
v: kernel bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1187 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: Logitech HD Webcam B910 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
bus-ID: 1-3:2 chip-ID: 046d:0823 class-ID: 0e02 serial: 03E4CF50
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: compton driver:
loaded: nouveau unloaded: modesetting,vesa alternate: fbdev,nv
display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 507x285mm (20.0x11.2")
s-diag: 582mm (22.9")
Monitor-1: HDMI-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 30
size: 1600x900mm (63.0x35.4") diag: 1836mm (72.3")
Message: Unable to show advanced data. Required tool glxinfo missing.

Last edited by thebiggiantmouse; 08-22-2021 at 07:24 PM.
 
Old 08-22-2021, 09:21 PM   #18
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Strange that you tout a different driver when you are using nouveau.
Not really...

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Nouveau is being used for the card
Right, kernel device module (kernel nomenclature for driver), which provides KMS and DRM services for display drivers.

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modesetting is part of the display (X11) features you show.
The modesetting DIX is an X display driver (foundational to X, whether Xorg or Wayland), without which either the old-technology, reverse-engineered, poor reputation, nouveau display driver would be required, or one of the crude fallback display drivers vesa or fbdev would be required, in order to have any X functionality via CRTCs.

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It is a known fact that nouveau is not comparable to the nvidia driver, but it works well enough for many.
Ambiguous again. There is no "the" nvidia driver. NVidia provides drivers named nvidia, both device, and display, packaged together. FOSS independently provides drivers named nouveau for both device (/lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau.ko) and display (/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so) in separate packages. FOSS also provides a display driver named modesetting (/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so), which is suited to NVidia GPUs, and is neither reverse-engineered, nor old technology, that is not separately packaged, but instead, included with the X server as a default component since v1.17.x release in 2015.

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I personally don't know of any options for GPU drivers with an nvidia card except nouveau (open source) and nvidia (proprietary), so if you can actually name one and show that you use it I would be willing to investigate.
Already did that: modesetting DIX display driver.
Code:
# grep esetting /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[    60.045] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 0
[    60.045] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[    60.045] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[    60.127] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    60.253] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
# inxi -Gxy
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GF119 [NVS 310] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nouveau # ← kernel device driver
  v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting # ← display device driver
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1: 2560x1440~60Hz 2: 2560x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: NVD9 v: 4.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes
 
Old 08-22-2021, 09:37 PM   #19
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Code:
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GK104 [GeForce GTX 1060] vendor: eVga.com. driver: nouveau 
  v: kernel bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1187 class-ID: 0300 
  ...
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: compton driver: 
  loaded: nouveau unloaded: modesetting...
You're running on the nouveau DDX driver, old technology. The simplest way to try the default display driver (modesetting) is to uninstall the optional one (nouveau, provided by package xf86-video-nouveau).

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Required tool glxinfo missing.
It may be a separately installable package, or a Mesa subpackage. In Debian and derivatives, it's in mesa-utils; in openSUSE, in Mesa-demo-x, so in Arch, likely in mesa-demos.
 
Old 08-23-2021, 01:36 AM   #20
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I didn't install the mesa package so maybe that is it
 
  


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