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Old 10-29-2012, 02:07 PM   #1
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Hello friends,

We are planning to purchase a Server for Linux with Oracle,, Please suggest which configuration would be best suited for this.
and Please suggest me which storage i should use, SAS or SSD SATA, as I have to implement RAID too.
Please suggest

Thanks for your valuable suggestions..
 
Old 10-30-2012, 10:20 AM   #2
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Hello friends,

We are planning to purchase a Server for Linux with Oracle,, Please suggest which configuration would be best suited for this.
and Please suggest me which storage i should use, SAS or SSD SATA, as I have to implement RAID too.
Please suggest

Thanks for your valuable suggestions..
There's no way anyone can give you any advice, based on what you've posted. Without knowing things like database size, number of users, or what your goals are, there's nothing we can do but guess. You say you want RAID...RAID WHAT? 5? 10? 6? 1? 0? Software or hardware RAID? Number of disks??? And I would DEFINITELY NOT use SSD for this.

Best advice, since you're going to purchase Oracle, is to contact your Oracle sales rep. Provide them with the details of what you're trying to accomplish, and they can suggest things. Again, since you're buying things, buy your Linux as well...go with Red Hat Enterprise or SuSE Enterprise, so you're in a supported configuration
 
Old 10-30-2012, 12:32 PM   #3
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There's no way anyone can give you any advice, based on what you've posted. Without knowing things like database size, number of users, or what your goals are, there's nothing we can do but guess. You say you want RAID...RAID WHAT? 5? 10? 6? 1? 0? Software or hardware RAID? Number of disks??? And I would DEFINITELY NOT use SSD for this.

Best advice, since you're going to purchase Oracle, is to contact your Oracle sales rep. Provide them with the details of what you're trying to accomplish, and they can suggest things. Again, since you're buying things, buy your Linux as well...go with Red Hat Enterprise or SuSE Enterprise, so you're in a supported configuration
Thanks for reply.

there is around 20GB Database/day in Oracle, we already contacted with the software vendor,
I would like to use RAID , Hardware RAID, and want to do Mirroring with Three hard disks, which storage i should use, SAS or Which controller i should use for SSD if RAID is possible in SSD, and whichever is best for RAID and performance.
As we were using 2GB RAM IBM3650 Rack server with xeon processor 1.86Ghz on windows 2003 standard Edition.
 
Old 10-30-2012, 06:23 PM   #4
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Thanks for reply.

there is around 20GB Database/day in Oracle, we already contacted with the software vendor,
Great...so what did the vendor say, and if you don't trust what they said, why are you paying them?
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I would like to use RAID , Hardware RAID, and want to do Mirroring with Three hard disks, which storage i should use, SAS or Which controller i should use for SSD if RAID is possible in SSD, and whichever is best for RAID and performance.
Again, WHAT TYPE OF RAID????, as in "what RAID level"?? Do you want to MIRROR three disks to three OTHER disks? Have three disks total? Online hot-spare? What??? And again, you should get whatever controller can do what you want to do....RAID performance typically is based on the controller AND the drives. Pick a good controller with good specs, and buy the drives accordingly.

Also AGAIN....I WOULD NOT USE SSD, at all, period, for a database. Some upper-end, VERY expensive SSD's might be a good choice, but read up on the difference between SLC and MLC cells that are used in those drives.
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As we were using 2GB RAM IBM3650 Rack server with xeon processor 1.86Ghz on windows 2003 standard Edition.
And your old server has what bearing on the one you WANT?
 
Old 10-31-2012, 12:26 PM   #5
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Great...so what did the vendor say, and if you don't trust what they said, why are you paying them?

Again, WHAT TYPE OF RAID????, as in "what RAID level"?? Do you want to MIRROR three disks to three OTHER disks? Have three disks total? Online hot-spare? What??? And again, you should get whatever controller can do what you want to do....RAID performance typically is based on the controller AND the drives. Pick a good controller with good specs, and buy the drives accordingly.

Also AGAIN....I WOULD NOT USE SSD, at all, period, for a database. Some upper-end, VERY expensive SSD's might be a good choice, but read up on the difference between SLC and MLC cells that are used in those drives.

And your old server has what bearing on the one you WANT?
We were running them their old configuration, and now we would like to upgrade. and we contacted with vendor and waiting for their response, but before i wanted to know about WHAT SHOULD BE THE CONFIGURATION.

And, We want to use RAID, MIRRORING THREE DISK, AS I MENTIONED. I want to know EXPERT VIEWS AS YOURS.
I was using IBM SERVERAID-8K SERIAL ATTACHED SCSI CONTROLLER WITH THREE DISKS.

And I wanted to know about disks which i should use for RAID..??

MAY BE THINGS ARE NOT CLEAR BUT I NEED YOUR VALUABLE SUGGESTIONS.

Thanks Alot..
 
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We were running them their old configuration, and now we would like to upgrade. and we contacted with vendor and waiting for their response, but before i wanted to know about WHAT SHOULD BE THE CONFIGURATION.

And, We want to use RAID, MIRRORING THREE DISK, AS I MENTIONED. I want to know EXPERT VIEWS AS YOURS. I was using IBM SERVERAID-8K SERIAL ATTACHED SCSI CONTROLLER WITH THREE DISKS. And I wanted to know about disks which i should use for RAID..?? MAY BE THINGS ARE NOT CLEAR BUT I NEED YOUR VALUABLE SUGGESTIONS.
Ok...again, you don't appear to be reading/understanding the replies, nor are you answering questions. Unless you answer the questions and provide details, NO ONE CAN GIVE YOU SUGGESTIONS, ok???

The questions are still:
  • Again, WHAT TYPE OF RAID????, as in "what RAID level"??
  • Do you want to MIRROR three disks to three OTHER disks?
  • Have three disks total?
  • Online hot-spare?
  • How many users will be accessing this database? (both total and concurrent)
  • A further question: what is your budget?
Go through the questions one by one. Answer them, and then someone can give you suggestions. And I seriously doubt that your database is going to grow at 20GB PER DAY. That would put it at about 600GB in the first month alone...and about 7.2TB in just the first year. If you're putting that much data online, you need FAR more than one server and three hard drives, and should hire a professional consultant to spec out EVERYTHING, including your SAN.

Best advice, AGAIN, is for you to purchase the best hard drives you can. Once again, the KIND of hard drives depend on the CONTROLLER, and until you pick THAT out, can't really tell you what kind of drives. Can't pick the controller out, until you figure out what kind of RAID you want. Just saying "hardware RAID" doesn't say much. Three disks is an odd number, too...if you want three disks to look like ONE, with data striped across them, then mirror THAT, then find a controller that does it, and that's within your budget. You will also have to find a hard drive chassis that can HOLD six drives, too.

If you had an IBM server and want advice, call your IBM sales rep, and tell them what you want. They will then give you a quote for a server that does it. That's their job. Otherwise, buy as much horsepower as you can...get at least 32GB of RAM, if not more. Get a hardware controller that supports an array like you want. Either SAS or SATA won't make much of a difference, since you're striping data.
 
  


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